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  • Originally posted by S IP U IR S xII View Post
    I think, if Pac and Floyd fought last year or in March this year, than i think that Floyd would be an overwhelming favorite, and i would pick him to win an easy UD.

    At this point.....Floyd is getting older and too many things going on right now. I think Manny kills him and sends him into retirement. Thats kind of the problem i have with this fight happening now. Its a lose lose for Manny. After he KO's Floyd, then its gonna be all the excuses in the world.

    1. Floyd was rusty
    2. Roger had legal trouble
    3. He was dealing with court issues
    4. His mind wasnt right due to all thats going on

    I think yall see where im going with this. Pac needs to forget Floyd, as fighting and maybe (and a BIG maybe) beating Sergio would mean just as much to Pacs legacy if not more than Floyd. E****ially when comparing them at the end of the day.

    Just my 2 cents that arent worth a nickel
    I agree with you, but I feel it goes both ways. No matter who wins there will be excuses, just like the SSM fight. After Floyd dogged him...SSM was over trainned and old, now Pac is fighting him and the excuses come up (although i think the bob father makes Pac look so bad) Pac will win and Floyd will fight Sergio....watch...

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    • Originally posted by megas30 View Post
      Marquez said he felt stronger and faster than before, even when he fought Pac...we saw them using the speed clock. According to you if Marquez and Pac are the same size, why is he blown up then and Pac is not? Why couldn't they fight at 140? Why does Mayweather need to fight another blown up jww in Manny, whom he won't get credit for?
      so you belive that jmm was better at ww than at 130/135?....lol
      yes pac is blown up too but he is still good enough to fight at higher weights unlike marquez....everyone wants floyd to fight pac but floyd


      Originally posted by megas30 View Post
      Answer this question fairly: you honestly believe Arum want this fight?
      yes..he tried negotiating twice did'nt he?..

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      • Roach Is Right!

        Freddie is right. Mayweather won't fight anyone who's a credible risk. He tried that once with Oscar, he got hit way too much and most felt Oscar won the fight. Since, Floyd has hand picked smaller, one dimensional, lead with your chin, and/or older guys like Marquez and Mosley whom Floyd was hoping were on the downside of their career. He wouldn't fight Mosley in his younger prime years when Mosley was fighting Oscar, Winky and Vernon Forrest all larger and in their prime. Floyd wouldn't fight Cotto in his prime, and he won't fight Pacquiao now in his prime. Nobody else has a problem to step in to challenge Pacquiao; Floyd Maweather Jr is short on courage, bottom line, and ALL about protecting his zero, for ego driven bragging rights after his career. Certainly not how legends before him such as Leonard, Hagler, Hearns, Duran, and even Oscar. They took on the best of the best multiple times, win, lose, or draw.

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        • Originally posted by jtiger78 View Post
          hes one of those new fans who caught pac knocking out ricky hatton on sportscenter and went nuts, made pacman his screen saver then he became a boxing fan, the only way you can be a good boxer to these new aged monkeys is to knockout someone, waste punches the whole fight, brawl, take punches for the crowds sake, and to leave yourself wide open to make it exciting all for the sake of the fans!!! and if they dont like the boxer as a person they disregaurd that he is a professional fighter who puts his life on the line and trains his ass off no matter who he is or who he fights! they have took boxing as a whole and narrowed it down into 2 people... floyd gayweather and manny pacroid they are the new jacob and esau!!!!! and if you happen to have a different tactic in winning your fights other than pumbling someone into a bleeding pulp you are somehow boring and gay with nothing to offer... if you actualy use the ring and footwork you are running...

          these are the people we are dealing with here... and they are why i dont visit the boards much it gets me angry! i remember the days where all boxers were appreciated for the different things they brought to the ring
          The current KO fad is a joke.

          And scoring for the "active fighter" when all he actually did was tire himself out and provide opportunities for his opponent..... is ridiculous.

          e.g......
          Quintana gets much more credit for his UD over Williams, than Williams does for his KO of Quintana. NOTE: I am talking about for each specific fight, not comparing resume's.

          That UD was the best performance in either of those two fights.

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          • Originally posted by hitking View Post
            They're not even agreeing to the USADA testing homie. Michael Kontz said on 24/7 Pacquaio-Margarito that they still asked for a 7 day cutoff. Mayweather said back in Jan that he would no longer accept any cutoffs for the testing. So agreeing to 14 days, 7 days, or even one day is irrelevant because its already been established that that's not acceptable. The talks of Pac "agreeing" to the testing is nothing but Pacwh*res who would much rather talk about Mayweather ducking Pac than Pac actually having to see what every fight fan that's followed this sport for any legnth of time knows is a stylistic nightmare for him.
            Look at his idiot. He actually thinks this OST demand is making
            Lil Floyd look good. How many fights have been made without
            this ****** request? Millions. That's just an admission that Floydie
            is scared of the Pacman. It's embarrassing. Are you fanboys ever
            go out and sense the public pulse out there or what? These forums
            don't reflect reality.

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            • Pacquiao beating Mayweather? Man I dont like Either, but No way in Hell Does Pacquiao beat Mayweather, are you serious ? Stop bull****ting us Freddie, you know no way in hell Pacquiao beats Mayweather, You never wanted the fight in the 1st place, Pacquiao can't deal with a skillfull fighter like Mayweather . Delusional!

              Based on what are you so confident that Pacquiao can beat May? He had trouble with 2 technical Boxers which were Eric Morales and Marquez , Now I know what your gonna say yeah but Pacquiao has Evolved , to me that means nothing because of the competition he has been facing , You all know the truth his opposition hasn't been the best and anybody could look good against slow shot fighters, Based on what exactly are you guys basin this on ? I always wanted to see Mayweather lose but lets face it the guy has never lost and I don't think he will either, Mayweather is very intelligent ,smart, he actually adjusts during the fight and He's defense is the best there is , once he figures you out its over, and his confidence is always high , So why does he beat Mayweather? Are you basin this on the Mosley 2nd round alone? Mayweather always proves us wrong . I don't like the guy but I respect his Boxing skills

              Also what does Mayweathers private life have to do with him being scared of Pacquiao?
              Last edited by SdBoxingFan83; 12-28-2010, 05:15 PM.

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              • Originally posted by JoeMan View Post
                Look at his idiot. He actually thinks this OST demand is making
                Lil Floyd look good. How many fights have been made without
                this ****** request? Millions. That's just an admission that Floydie
                is scared of the Pacman. It's embarrassing. Are you fanboys ever
                go out and sense the public pulse out there or what? These forums
                don't reflect reality.
                You sound like a little kid.

                What sort of an idiot would consider that OST request a duck ?

                Who would question the guy who asked, but not even consider questioning the guy who refused?

                Wake up kid.

                Oh wait, you mean..... when Mayweather insisted that Shane Mosley undertake OST's before their fight, that was just Floyd's way of ducking Mosley?

                Because, he knew Shane wouldn't accept those ridiculous demands right ?

                Jeez, Mayweather was lucky.....
                just imagine if Shane had called his bluff and taken those nasty tests

                It is absolutely ridiculous for you to think that the OST request was a duck.

                The following "duck" excuses are ALL better than your one..........

                FLOYD: " **** off, you're not getting 50% "
                FLOYD: " **** off, 10 million per pound overweight is ridiculous "
                FLOYD: " **** off, you're not a draw "
                FLOYD: " **** off, you've had too many losses "
                FLOYD: " **** off..... just **** off "

                If Mayweather wanted a way out of that fight, do you really think that he would have accepted 50/50? or that silly 10mil per pound demand?

                He would have used one of five excuses, and ALL of them would be better than your one..... because, Manny could have simply taken the test.

                * OST's are HARMLESS !!
                * OST's will be mandatory within a couple of decades
                * OST's are mandatory NOW in ALL top amateur sports

                But this is the main point.....
                * Currently, if an amateur athlete avoids or obstructs an OST request, they are JUDGED GUILTY, by the sanctioning body, and by the public in general.

                THE SAME WILL HAPPEN in a few years, because OST will be mandatory at that point in time.

                In the future, boxing fans will wonder why Manny insisted upon a cut-off date - which will seem bizarre, because.....
                a.) there is no such thing as a cut-off date for OST's
                b.) EVERYBODY will be taking OST's as per regulation, at that point in time

                Team Pacquiao gave a total of 6 ridiculous excuses why Manny would not undertake random blood tests - which is a fkn joke. Requiring 6 different excuses means that none of them were any good, they just didn't want to take blood tests simple as that......

                Floyd was toeing the line..... WHERE THE *** WAS MANNY ?

                Joe, tell me..... which one of those 6 ridiculous excuses did you believe ?

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                • Pacquiao already has Mayweather beat mentally before the fight. Once Floyd sees how his punches cant hurt Pac and Pacs southpaw stance and handspeed hit floyd at will and all have more power than floyd could ever have imagined then he will run for 12 rounds and lose by UD on the scorecards.

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                  • FLOYD is Wack!

                    History shows that between FLOYD and PAC ... FLOYD is more of the DUCKER .. PAC is more of the ENTERTAINER .. FLOYD hasn't lost, BOTH never tested positive on PEDS, FLOYD is more MONEY-DRIVEN, PAC fights more BIGGER dudes.. FLOYD talks more SMACK... PAC has more AWARDS..

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                    • Originally posted by odogg8121 View Post
                      I agree with you, but I feel it goes both ways. No matter who wins there will be excuses, just like the SSM fight. After Floyd dogged him...SSM was over trainned and old, now Pac is fighting him and the excuses come up (although i think the bob father makes Pac look so bad) Pac will win and Floyd will fight Sergio....watch...
                      As a Pac fan....i want this for the better of the sport and Pac........I want Pac to try and sell Mosley, and Floyd comes out and fights Sergio. Arum and Co. would look so ******.

                      I want Arum to look so ****** and suffer for making these BS fights. Only problem is that.....i think Sergio beats Floyd....BADLY...the size and speed just might be too much to overcome. Though its not about that, but making Floyd look noble and take on the best in the sport right now in Sergio. Floyd would be "The Guy" thats beating someone at the top of thier game. Its about principle, and what better way to give a middle finger to Arum from Floyd, by taking on Sergio.......LETS MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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