Jmm at welterweight.

[Las Vegas,]

I picked Marquez over both and even pick Marquez over Pacquiao in the rematch. I don't hate Marquez at all but he has no business above 135.

Yeah. I guess you just felt the urge to give free points away in betting threads I'm sure.

Besides, who says Marquez is coming in at 147? Pacquiao most likely won't come in at 147. So what's the problem? Pacquiao will have the advantage sure, but if Marquez fights smart he can out point Pacquaio. I've said this multiple times before, styles make fights. It's a true statement. Pacquaio gave up 17 pounds against Margarito and demolished him. Wanna know why? Margarito was tailor made for Pacquaio. I don't really see a problem here other than the fact that Pacquaio fans want nothing to do with Marquez.

[Visceral]

Marquez would definetly beat a lot of the WW's out there right now and the fact that he knows Pacquiao as well as he does, I think he has a good shot at beating Pac. And apart from Mayweather is one of the only credible challengers at this time.

[frankenfrank]

How did Marquez prove that he couldn't hang above 140? I find this justification for him being passed over by Pac troubling.

-The only person he's ever fought above 140 was Floyd-who is arguable the best welterweight. Name a fighter between 140 and 154 who wouldn't lose to Floyd on that night.

-He and Pac are just about the same size.

No they are not.
JMM is a small 135 / big 130 and Pacquiao's a legitimate 140.

-He looked slow against Floyd because he was in against one of the fastest boxer of this generation.

He also looked slow against Floyd because JMM was never intended to carry such a weight , he fought a long way above his ideal weight class .

I say let Marquez be the judge of his own destiny, never question a man's will and heart.

He has them both but let him fight men his own size and not men 2-4 weight classes above himself.

[Prime 407]

How did Marquez prove that he couldn't hang above 140? I find this justification for him being passed over by Pac troubling.

-The only person he's ever fought above 140 was Floyd-who is arguable the best welterweight. Name a fighter between 140 and 154 who wouldn't lose to Floyd on that night.

-He and Pac are just about the same size.

-He looked slow against Floyd because he was in against one of the fastest boxer of this generation.

I say let Marquez be the judge of his own destiny, never question a man's will and heart.




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Then JMM should fight another 147lber like Berto or even Clottey and prove us all wrong. Then there'll be no doubt.

[Rolaz]

Let Marquez fights Berto and the winner will take on the winner between Pacman vs Mosley!

Marquez wasn't really comfortable at 147lbs during his fight with Floyd jr!

And so he went back at 135lbs fighting Contenders at Lightweight!

[megas30]

No they are not.
JMM is a small 135 / big 130 and Pacquiao's a legitimate 140.


He also looked slow against Floyd because JMM was never intended to carry such a weight , he fought a long way above his ideal weight class .


He has them both but let him fight men his own size and not men 2-4 weight classes above himself.

We saw Marquez training with the speed clock and we heard his trainer saying he has to be faster and stronger against Mayweather like he has never been before-we also heard them sign off on how fast and strong Marquez has become....they just never knew how quick and slick Mayweather was.

Marquez would not have beaten Mayweather at any weight.

As far as three years ago, people were ridicule to even suggest Manny fighting Mayweather.

We all heard the testimony from those whom had been in the ring with him, saying it's a difference watching him and being in the ring with.

If Pac is a legit 140 lber...why not make the fight legitimate and fight Marquez at 140?

[megas30]

Let Marquez fights Berto and the winner will take on the winner between Pacman vs Mosley!

Marquez wasn't really comfortable at 147lbs during his fight with Floyd jr!

And so he went back at 135lbs fighting Contenders at Lightweight!

It's not like Marquez became a bum after Manny, he's continue to win titles and knock out opponents. Why would he need to fight Berto to prove that? before Floyd, no one was saying that Marquez needed to prove himself above 140. Most ppl, including Bert sugar, was picking him to beat Floyd.

[megas30]

Then JMM should fight another 147lber like Berto or even Clottey and prove us all wrong. Then there'll be no doubt.

So u guys have the power to choose fight for Manny? Why didn't you stop the circus train of the last two fights?

[megas30]

so wifebeater murks mosley and everyone is all upset about pac/mosley, but wifebeater murks jmm and he deserves a fight with pac?

I don't get that logic.


then why did jmm run back down to 135 lbs? why not continue to fight at WW?


he didn't look slow against pac at 130 lbs and pac is as fast if not faster than wifebeater.


I don't question his will or heart, I question whether or not he will be competitive against pac above 135 lbs.

he can't carry the weight.

Marquez went back to 135 because of the mental beating he took. It was novelty for him.. Floyd made him feel he didn't belong. Had he taken the route Manny took by beating old guys he would have build up more confidence and stayed and get used to the weight.

Floyd can fight any style because of his adaptability. Those who been around long enough knows style makes fight, thus negating the triangular theory.

Don't be Paranoid, people are judging the fight on its own merit. Mosley, basically has the same style as all of Pac's other opponent, albeit, a little more power and he's the eldest. And it's the hypocrisy and double standard people are alluding to because the same reasoning used to discredit Mayweather's win over Mosley is been overlook in encouraging this fiasco-that's he's an old man.

Marquez is a more technician who became a student when he fought Floyd, Marquez was missing against Floyd all night, conventional wisdom tells us the bigger the target the easier it should be to hit, then how did Floyd won that fight with size? If he was being hit repeatedly, then u guys would have point but Marquez couldn't touch him. However, we have seen him in there with Manny.

Contrary to popular belief, Manny Pacquaio has only improve in strength and conditioning, which allows him to throw more punches and with more power.

A fighter who will make him think will always give him hell...people aren't saying that Marquez will win, but are asking for a competitive fight, same was the case for all the top fighters before Manny. When you are on top you will get away with easy fights for so long until people start holding you to a higher standard.