I think Haye/Wlad is a toss up.

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Thats it, Wlad needs to establish the jab, Haye will try not to allow him to with footspeed and movement, the guy who loses will be the guy who makes a mistake imo

this is why haye taunts wlad so bad, he wants him to get out of his game and chase haye around the ring

Haye is aware that Wlad will never get off his gameplan. And if Wlad were to come forward behind that jab, Haye is ****ed. I think Haye wants the exact opposite to happen - for Wlad to get timid. Maybe a little nervous and even more cautious after hearing the non-stop steady stream of trash talk from a confident threat.

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Wlad will do the chicken dance when Haye connects.

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not for me, haye wins this easily, haye really is much quicker, wlad will not land at him at all, in my opinion the first big shot haye lands, wlad is out. for me wlad does not throw right handers often enough to beat haye

Everybody says Wlad who is an extremely accurate power puncher wont land on Haye when everybody lands on Haye

I just dont understand when people analyze the fight that way.

People also love to mention Vlads bad chin but Haye's is no better.

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then there's plenty of meaningless comment threads to go around as well

I'm just tired of getting our hopes up.

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Vlads poor stamina?

watch his fights from 3 years ago or older before u start ridiculing...wlad fights like he does now because he would usually outpunch himself...these days he's very paced and measured in the ring but also cautious and mechanic in his approach

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watch his fights from 3 years ago or older before u start ridiculing...wlad fights like he does now because he would usually outpunch himself...these days he's very paced and measured in the ring but also cautious and mechanic in his approach

How about now?

3 years ago was 3 years ago, and the Vlad from 3 years ago wont be the one fighting Haye

Vlads possible Stamina from 3 years issues wont matter in a fight today

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Haye is aware that Wlad will never get off his gameplan. And if Wlad were to come forward behind that jab, Haye is ****ed. I think Haye wants the exact opposite to happen - for Wlad to get timid. Maybe a little nervous and even more cautious after hearing the non-stop steady stream of trash talk from a confident threat.

spot on 1000000 percent

this is what I meant earlier saying wlad does not throw the right hand, I also find it funny people saying its easy to land on haye because of ruiz, haye had no sparring for that fight and used different tactics

I been watching haye all his career, wlads only hope is to come forward and land that big right after the jab. Wlad will not do this because he does not have the chin to take this risk

i am telling you all, Haye will EASILy, yes easily win this, it will be a walk over for Haye. He is just too quick, haye has good power and good skill with lightening speed.

speed kills

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How about now?

3 years ago was 3 years ago, and the Vlad from 3 years ago wont be the one fighting Haye

Vlads possible Stamina from 3 years issues wont matter in a fight today

it will when he fights someone that's going to take him out of his comfort zone, someone who has the speed to make him miss and make him pay, someone who has the power to make him think twice about sticking out his jab

thats why panda mentioned he fights measured and paced right now, but both me and the ts were discussing how wlad would react when he would really want to put some hurt onto haye

not saying haye will win but he does have the best chance out of anyone relevant at HW at the moment

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it will when he fights someone that's going to take him out of his comfort zone, someone who has the speed to make him miss and make him pay, someone who has the power to make him think twice about sticking out his jab

thats why panda mentioned he fights measured and paced right now, but both me and the ts were discussing how wlad would react when he would really want to put some hurt onto haye

not saying haye will win but he does have the best chance out of anyone relevant at HW at the moment

Exactly, it's all good and well saying wlad is better, and pointing to his recent destructions, but it's easy to destroy someone who isn't a threat.

Realistically Sam Peter is the most dangerous opponent Wlad has fought in years, and Peter is a stationary slugger, just dont stand in front of him and you'll be fine, you can't say that for haye, he can strike at any moment.

the danger (on both sides) is what makes this interesting

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it will when he fights someone that's going to take him out of his comfort zone, someone who has the speed to make him miss and make him pay, someone who has the power to make him think twice about sticking out his jab
thats why panda mentioned he fights measured and paced right now, but both me and the ts were discussing how wlad would react when he would really want to put some hurt onto haye

not saying haye will win but he does have the best chance out of anyone relevant at HW at the moment

Honestly makes no sense

You're saying he get bad stamina when Haye is running from him? The bold also makes no sense, i mean why would he not throw the jab?

Haye will be running around the ring more then any of his recent opponents, just look at the Valuev fight