I think Haye/Wlad is a toss up.

[Russian Crushin]

Exactly, it's all good and well saying wlad is better, and pointing to his recent destructions, but it's easy to destroy someone who isn't a threat.

Realistically Sam Peter is the most dangerous opponent Wlad has fought in years, and Peter is a stationary slugger, just dont stand in front of him and you'll be fine, you can't say that for haye, he can strike at any moment.

the danger (on both sides) is what makes this interesting

So Haye is more dangerous because he will be doing more running? Looking at the Valuev fight, he will be running 2x as much from the much faster, more accurate and way more dangerous Vlad

[Earl-Hickey]

Honestly makes no sense

You're saying he get bad stamina when Haye is running from him? The bold also makes no sense, i mean why would he not throw the jab?

Haye will be running around the ring more then any of his recent opponents, just look at the Valuev fight

A fight where you have to think more than usual can make you lose stamina.

Look at mosley/pbf mosley was GASSED.

then check his mayorga and margarito fights before, and the mora fight after, he didnt have no stamina problems.

but anyway i dont think wlad will gas.

[Earl-Hickey]

So Haye is more dangerous because he will be doing more running? Looking at the Valuev fight, he will be running 2x as much from the much faster, more accurate and way more dangerous Vlad

The counters Haye landed on Valuev would hurt wlad though, thats the difference, Valuev has an asteroid for a head, Wlad has poor punch resistance, do you think he will enjoy chasing haye and getting rocked with counters?

[RichCCFC]

Wlad has big advantage, Haye will be the one having to adjust to force the fight in his direction, Wlad's size and reach advantage + timing and speed on jab gives him big edge for me.

[-PANDA-]

Honestly makes no sense

You're saying he get bad stamina when Haye is running from him? The bold also makes no sense, i mean why would he not throw the jab?

Haye will be running around the ring more then any of his recent opponents, just look at the Valuev fight

he would gas out while chasing a mobile opponent. thats how sanders gave vitali trouble in the beginning of their fight and thats what haye could apply. haye could make him think twice about throwing that jab if he counters him every time wlad sticks it out. wlad's got long arms, but he's also carrying over 250lbs around in that ring. the jab is wlad's key weapon, if haye is able to discourage him in any way to throwing it then he could well beat wlad imo

now ure not making sense, ure comparing haye's fight with valuev to his potential fight with wlad

[Russian Crushin]

A fight where you have to think more than usual can make you lose stamina.

Look at mosley/pbf mosley was GASSED.

then check his mayorga and margarito fights before, and the mora fight after, he didnt have no stamina problems.

but anyway i dont think wlad will gas.

Mosley was 38 and gassed in the 3rd round after dominating the 2nd, showing you he simply had no stamina in that fight because he has never gassed out like that before

Thing is i dont see how he will do more in this fight then he has in any other fight. Haye will not be engaging and Vlad will not do more in this fight then anyother fight

Vlad is in his prime and has shown no issues so i dont see why that will matter at all

[Bastian Loc]

I agree big sexy.

Too many people are overlooking Haye in this fight.

[Russian Crushin]

he would gas out while chasing a mobile opponent. thats how sanders gave vitali trouble in the beginning of their fight and thats what haye could apply. haye could make him think twice about throwing that jab if he counters him every time wlad sticks it out. wlad's got long arms, but he's also carrying over 250lbs around in that ring. the jab is wlad's key weapon, if haye is able to discourage him in any way to throwing it then he could well beat wlad imo

now ure not making sense, ure comparing haye's fight with valuev to his potential fight with wlad

I just dont understand why a fighter who uses his jab and reach as his main weapon to keep his opponent away would stop throwing the jab just he might have power

Plus Haye has no more power then Peter.

[RichCCFC]

I thought somewhat like the TS but then I saw how easily Wlad handles Eddie's speed.

[Earl-Hickey]

I just dont understand why a fighter who uses his jab and reach as his main weapon to keep his opponent away would stop throwing the jab just he might have power

Plus Haye has no more power then Peter.

No, but he has infinantly better delivery.

Peter just throws big, slow clubbing shots, haye throws super accurate fast counters.

Haye could probably throw 20 punches in the time peter takes to throw 1