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  • IronDanHamza
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    #11
    Originally posted by P4P305
    Cotto did great early on until he tried to showed he was the stronger man. Pac's style make it difficult, but let's not act like those guys styles were any close to resemble JMM or Floyd style. As far Pac vs Alvarez, he's still too young and inexperienced to beat Manny.
    Plus, Cotto isnt close to being a good counter puncher anyway. The reason no one has been able to adapt this gameplan as you touched on is because his last 5 fighters none of the fighters are good counter punchers. As for Alvarez he obviously needs more experiance under his belt.

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    • commonsense81
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      #12
      Originally posted by jpunieves
      i also wonder if alvy could take some of pac's *****ty punches. some where swarm of hornet stings while some are just plain old one time grenades.
      yea it would be a true test for canelo he is too green the jury is still out on him right now that ko on baldy put him on the map I remember an interview that floyd had saying he wanted to fight him in mexico city after he beat marquez the bloggers jumped all over floyd I think berto and canelo should fight right now though

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      • Ray*
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        #13
        I think most know how to go about beating Pac, But I haven't seen anyone who I would pick over Pac at the moment, Some might give him problems like Berto or JMM but he would still beat them, I certainly didn't give anyone of those slow moving fighters like Cotto, Clottey or Margarito any chance because none of them can box with effective movement.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Ray*
          I think most know how to go about beating Pac, But I haven't seen anyone who I would pick over Pac at the moment, Some might give him problems like Berto or JMM but he would still beat them, I certainly didn't give anyone of those slow moving fighters like Cotto, Clottey or Margarito any chance because none of them can box with effective movement.
          Agree. Even Berto, he's young, fast, and strong. He's just not fundamentally discipline enough to outbox Manny.

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          • Tweezy316
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            #15
            Originally posted by P4P305
            Agree. Even Berto, he's young, fast, and strong. He's just not fundamentally discipline enough to outbox Manny.
            But Manny doesn't box anyone. He goes in already having a speed advantage which makes it much easier. But he's still getting hit a lot even while being much faster than his opponent. So a young, strong, and very fast Berto with ko power has more than a good chance. And this is exactly why Pac wants nothing to do with Berto.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Tweezy316
              But Manny doesn't box anyone. He goes in already having a speed advantage which makes it much easier. But he's still getting hit a lot even while being much faster than his opponent. So a young, strong, and very fast Berto with ko power has more than a good chance. And this is exactly why Pac wants nothing to do with Berto.
              A Berto with KO power only fighting bums and getting close to 1M Dollars? It's Berto who doesn't want to fight against Pac.He will lose the easy chance to earn 1M fighting bums.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Ray*
                I think most know how to go about beating Pac, But I haven't seen anyone who I would pick over Pac at the moment, Some might give him problems like Berto or JMM but he would still beat them, I certainly didn't give anyone of those slow moving fighters like Cotto, Clottey or Margarito any chance because none of them can box with effective movement.
                Originally posted by Tweezy316
                But Manny doesn't box anyone. He goes in already having a speed advantage which makes it much easier. But he's still getting hit a lot even while being much faster than his opponent. So a young, strong, and very fast Berto with ko power has more than a good chance. And this is exactly why Pac wants nothing to do with Berto.
                Yeah. But at the end of the day, Manny would win as long Berto keep chasing him around. It would be competitive for awhile due to Berto's youth, speed, and power, but just the idea of him bringing the fight to Manny would lead him to his downfall.
                Last edited by Carpe Diem; 12-25-2010, 08:25 AM.

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                • komandante
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                  #18
                  A lot of things has been said how to beat Manny, but in reality nobody beats Pacquiao.

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                  • Rolaz
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                    #19
                    The problem is Pacman, as per his latest fight with Margs, was also very good in counter punching, hitting the target accurately with speed.

                    So when you hit Pacman, he's gonna retaliate with great speed!

                    Pacman has power in his punches too;

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                    • Lope Sarreal
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                      #20
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                      It is not about speed, it is not about style, it is not about JMM (King Camote)
                      It is not about Aling Berto, it is not about Shane Mosely it is about......
                      Maynever ! Got it ?

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