whats better to fight Mosley? or not to fight at all? :)

[Roja's480]

Mosley bring more resume wise due to his age. Berto brings more in the youth department, unlike Mosley, he can pull the trigger both with speed and power. At this point in time, yes, Berto has the ability to give a better fight than Mosley.

agree 100%

[TOBYLEE1]

well???? what is it? atleast somebody is fighting someone who is top of his division, unlike the other so called goat

You are one of those fans that just want to see your fighter fight a winnable fight. This fight does nothing for Pac and by some miracle Mosley KOes him he is at risk of tainting everything he has done

[Clyde Barrow]

A Shane fight is certainly better than going on the shelf for Pac. Making it a PPV takes the piss though. It's nothing but a stay busy fight.

[AKATheMack]

Not fighting at all> Fighting Mosley on PPV.

[jrosales13]

uhm, yeah, that's what i said *******. At 147lb Mosley SHOULD get KTFO, Berto at this point in his career would be a better fight than Mosley, due to his youth and speed and he has some pop as well. Mosley although the more polished fighter cannot pull the trigger nor does he have the reflexes to react to a Pacman assault. At 140lbs JMM gives a better fight than than any of the three mentioned, easily. Neither Mosley nor Berto are the technical masters that JMM is.

At 140...all the real talent lies, eeryone knows this. 147lbs is dry as the dessert in terms of talent. 140lbs is the weight Manny should be fighting at anyway it been repeated numerous times that he is nothing more than a junior welterweight. Alex Ariza , Manny conditioning coach, was quoted as saying Manny could make 140lbs without breaking a sweat.

No you did not say that and you not sayint that in this post either you keep talking about JMM at 140. Why? What has he done above 135? Pac-JMM at 140 or above is just as useless at the Mosley fight right now.

I don't get why people bring up JMM for, cuz he gave Pac hell a few years 10lb south? Pac carried the weight at the higher weight-class better than JMM did. JMM is a small LW that is why he gets rocked back, bullied, and drop by LW's. LW is his limit anything higher he is ineffective. Don't mention him at 140 or higher cuz he gets KTFO by Pac. Is useless, that ship has sailed. The only way a Pac-JMM fight is OK is if it is at 135, or maybe at a catch-weight of 138 but that might be pushing. Nothing higher than that.

And, Pac can compete at any weight-class he wants. I don't care if it is 140, 147, 154 as long as whatever weight-class he picks he fights the best available contender.

[cixthree]

Are those his only 2 options?

Then as a Pac fan I rather him not fight at all. I rather him go on a long vacation or retire than have a waste of time fight. This fight does nothing for me and it will get nothing from me.

Is garbage

Not only that, it takes the shine away from other fighters.
Instead of pumping the promotion into this BS, why not build another star... Or let the other up and commers get some pie.
Bob wants it ALL, so **** um.

[jrosales13]

Not only that, it takes the shine away from other fighters.
Instead of pumping the promotion into this BS, why not build another star... Or let the other up and commers get some pie.
Bob wants it ALL, so **** um.

I agree...

But, lets look at it the other way and not just blame Arum but blame other promoters.

How is it that Arum is building these starts without the help of no other promoter? yet all these promoters are trying to get a hand out? How come these promoters can't build stars?

Instead of waiting for HBO dates, or wishing that Arum would do business with you. Be an F'ing promoter and start building your own star fighter. They're trying to piggyback of Arum. Sometimes Arum gets hate that he deserves but sometimes he gets unnecessary hate just cuz he is Arum.

In this case Arum is doing his job, and he is doing it well. I blame Pac more than anything cuz he is suppose to be fighting for the fans.

[Vasyl’s dad]

I don't care how old he is...That is no excuse for an elite of his caliber to fight garbage ass fights.

No excuse...

There were better options than Mosley...Maybe if Mosley was the best option then fine. But, he was not the best option.

So your little excuse is idiotic...Like he should get a past cuz of his F'ing age? GTFOH.

No, go take time off, retire do something else instead of wasting time with this garbage fight.

Hacine Cherifi says hi. So does Mamadou Thiam.

[jrosales13]

Hacine Cherifi says hi. So does Mamadou Thiam.

Cherifi was after suffering his first KO lost was it not? He wasn't considered the best P4P fighter being KO'd right?

Thiam was a fight that happened when he fought 3 times in that calender year. And, that fight was sandwiched between Reid and Vargas.

And, it was on regular HBO as well as Cherifi.

So tell those 2 I said hi too.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Cherifi was after suffering his first KO lost was it not? He wasn't considered the best P4P fighter being KO'd right?

Thiam was a fight that happened when he fought 3 times in that calender year. And, that fight was sandwiched between Reid and Vargas.

And, it was on regular HBO as well as Cherifi.

So tell those 2 I said hi too.

A soft touch is a soft touch.

No need to sugar coat it.

Apparently, Shane for Manny is a soft touch as well, so whats the problem?