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  • Pu$$yKiller
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    #61
    Originally posted by EngorgedW/Blood
    But answer his other questions. Who did Clottey and Margarito beat to get a shot at Pacquiao?
    The truth, I think since Arum wnated it kept in house.

    However I believe because he had a close fight with Cotto, he still maybe deserved a shot.

    I believe Mayweather and Mosely had a fight scheduled. Or was it Mosely and Berto?

    I forgot now.

    Like I said before, I believe Berto should have got the shot.

    However it does not mean JMM deserves a shot over Berto or Mosely.

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      #62
      Originally posted by EngorgedW/Blood
      Berto is the best opponent for Pacquiao, forget Marquez if it's at 147. Berto stops Marquez and i'd give him a good chance to beat Pacquiao.
      I agree, I believe that Berto beats JMM and earns a shot at Pac through that.

      I believe unless Mosely KO's Pac early, then he lsoes.

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        #63
        Only problem with this is, he won't get past Berto.

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          #64
          Originally posted by EngorgedW/Blood
          First people say Berto is too short for WW now he should be a 154 pounder where guys are even taller there. Maybe there should be a new weight class right between 140 and 147, maybe 144 where if you're too short for WW but too tall for 140 then you are a 144 pounder.

          Cause if it's just that he's too short for WW but he's big enough for 154, wouldn't make sense.
          I also agree with this, Berto has eben taliing of fighting the 140 guys, yet they say he's big enoguh to be 154.

          Heck Cotto, Clottey etc... are big enoguh to be at 154, but if they make 147, they make 147.

          If JMM wnats to play with the bigger boys at 147, then he could face someone tall as williams.

          If JMM actually called the shots and made the money, then he could pick and choose.


          Berto VS Pac will be exciting, fast and powerful.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Dorian..
            Only problem with this is, he won't get past Berto.
            Are you sure since he can get through Pac apparently.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Pu$$yKiller
              Are you sure since he can get through Pac apparently.
              Pacquiao will beat JMM if they fight again by TKO/KO. 130 was a different story. I think Berto would be too much for him at this stage. I really like JMM tho but his time is ticking fast(which is a shame).

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                #67
                Originally posted by Dorian..
                Pacquiao will beat JMM if they fight again by TKO/KO. 130 was a different story. I think Berto would be too much for him at this stage. I really like JMM tho but his time is ticking fast(which is a shame).
                He is pretty old and does take some licks.

                Time is running out, and I guess that's why Nacho wanted some guys who were not as fast and Khan.

                Pacquaio would be one of his last paydays IMO.

                I can not see him winning at 147 at all, heck even 140 would be extremely tough.

                Berto has too much speed, and decent power. The main thing, his size will bully JMM just like Juan Diaz did.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Pu$$yKiller
                  I also agree with this, Berto has eben taliing of fighting the 140 guys, yet they say he's big enoguh to be 154.

                  Heck Cotto, Clottey etc... are big enoguh to be at 154, but if they make 147, they make 147.

                  If JMM wnats to play with the bigger boys at 147, then he could face someone tall as williams.

                  If JMM actually called the shots and made the money, then he could pick and choose.


                  Berto VS Pac will be exciting, fast and powerful.
                  The confusing part with these matchups is the style and size of these guys.

                  You see Berto is way bigger than Marquez, he comes as a JMW on fight night, he's also taller and he's built like a tank and then his style is not that come forward style that Marquez and Pacquiao are very good at, hell Marquez is even good against boxers as you saw his fights with Casamayor and Chris John he schooled both of them, well he schooled John and stopped Casamayor.

                  The you have lil Pacquiao who's only 5 6 and closer to Marquez size on fight night and Marquez is actually taller than Pacquiao.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by EngorgedW/Blood
                    The confusing part with these matchups is the style and size of these guys.

                    You see Berto is way bigger than Marquez, he comes as a JMW on fight night, he's also taller and he's built like a tank and then his style is not that come forward style that Marquez and Pacquiao are very good at, hell Marquez is even good against boxers as you saw his fights with Casamayor and Chris John he schooled both of them, well he schooled John and stopped Casamayor.

                    The you have lil Pacquiao who's only 5 6 and closer to Marquez size on fight night and Marquez is actually taller than Pacquiao.
                    That's true but this time at 147, Pac has gained power, maybe less speed, but quite accurate and is also able to kind of float around when he wants.

                    Before Pac would just go in, in and in. Now he can kind of box if he chooses to aswell.

                    I don't think JMM knocks Pac out. Heck JMM had to war with Katsdids to win and the same for the first Juan fight.

                    I do feel Pac can knock JMM out at 147 though.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Pu$$yKiller
                      He is pretty old and does take some licks.

                      Time is running out, and I guess that's why Nacho wanted some guys who were not as fast and Khan.

                      Pacquaio would be one of his last paydays IMO.

                      I can not see him winning at 147 at all, heck even 140 would be extremely tough.

                      Berto has too much speed, and decent power. The main thing, his size will bully JMM just like Juan Diaz did.
                      No he wouldn't actually, that's not Berto's style. Berto kinda stays back, and bursts out with combos when he sees and opening ,he also has a god jab. Diaz was just pressuring and throwing punches at all times not even caring about getting hit back. Berto is not like that, he is aware about defense, not that he's like a Pernell Whitaker or something, but he does use his defense.

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