Measuring Manny: Has he improved since 2008?

[MrRolltide91]

the more skills they have, the lower his output is

yep........

[rambov]

Yeah so I don't really think he improved.

[Carpe Diem]

When has he ever given Manny good in-fight advice~

He has given him good advice, but he just hasn't formulate different strategies for Manny to use when their game plan isn't working. But most of that is Manny's fault, there's only so much a trainer can do, it's always up to the Boxer to try to figure it out on his own.

[John Barron]

[Doctor_Tenma]

He's definitely improved, but not against fighters who box; control distance and look to counter. He's clearly got a wider arsenal of punches, but again, all ineffective against Marquez.

[The Gambler1981]

He has given him good advice, but he just hasn't formulate different strategies for Manny to use when their game plan isn't working. But most of that is Manny's fault, there's only so much a trainer can do, it's always up to the Boxer to try to figure it out on his own.

Well yea, the plan is always play to Manny's strengths so if that plan isn't working what is there to really do~ turn to something that isn't a strength, that is probably a losing proposition.

In any of the fight where he didn't look that great JMM I II III, Barrera II, Mosley or even the second half of the Cotto fight when he really ran I have never heard anything other than general stuff no real pearls of wisdom.

There is something to be said for keeping it simple, but there is a downside to that, simple is easy to figure out and once figured out there isn't much that be done to change at that point.

But yea it speaks to Manny's limitations, but Roach also as he was not a master tactician in the ring when he fought so it is hard to expect him to be great at that as a trainer~

[SNAKE GRIFFIN]

"Measuring Manny" is an in-depth evaluation of Manny Pacquiao since his 2nd bout with Marquez in 2008. This is a not a long write up, this is a video documentary with in depth fight footage detailing Manny's style of fighting, and his opponents.

• How much has Manny's boxing improved?
• Has the quality/skill of opponent he's faced improved since Marquez in '08?

He was a top rank hype job fighting Floyd leftovers at catchweights getting decisions because otherwise the Mayweather fight will not make its potential revenue, He's plateaued and been protected by uncle bob and probaly has made half of what Mayweather has in doing so, meaning he ATG Fan boy hero who like to sing chessy 80's songs on jimmy kemmel after he's pawed away at a weight drained fighter for 12 rounds.