ESPN: PACQUIAO Had Options...and he Chose The WORST Fight!!

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  • jrosales13
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    #51
    Originally posted by check hook
    To be fair to Pac here, at least he's fighting regularly........Floyd's inactivity pisses me off as a fan.

    "A Floyd Mayweather fight is like a superbowl.....it only happens once a year, so you better watch it" - i hate it when he says that....but in his mind it increases his drawing power......he's so inactive that when he does fight it get's notice.
    I mean 2 times a year might be considered regularly nowadays.

    But, that is still a little inactive to me. If you going to fight that few fights a year it has to be against the best available opponents.

    Look at Wlad Klitschko's he is an elite fighter in the division and P4P. And, he still pretty active by fighting 3 times a year. Like he was scheduled this year before he got injured. And, he still does good numbers Germany or wherever he fights take place.

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    • B.U.R.N.E.R
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      #52
      Ey Mike what happened to the fight in your sig?

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      • Khalid X
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        #53
        Originally posted by No Ceilings
        Enough pull?

        What ever happened to fighting "the best"?

        Alexander/Bradley at 140 is better than a Shane fight.

        Martinez at 154 is better than a Shane fight.

        Berto at 147 is better than a Shane fight.

        JMM at 135 is better than a Shane fight. So basically you're admitting Pac is a cherrypicker. What made him go "get" Mosley?
        Who is to say Bradley vs Alexander winner will even be available. Thats 14 week turn around, and barring no injuries it's still a bit much to ask those guys to do back to back camps for one of the biggest fights of there career.

        As far as going to 135, again you show a complete lack of understanding of the sport with that comment. When has a guy who was on the a-side of a bout, had that much more drawing power.....went down 2 weight classes, just to prove a meaningless point? Again what leverage does Marquez hold to make Manny do that? Also why should Manny drop to 135 and then back to 147 for a fight in November. Your post and logic make no sense what's so ever.

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        • JDezi4
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          #54
          They still don't anything about boxing. But at least they got this right... Though I bet it's becuz they listen to what other people have said on forums and shyt

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            #55
            Originally posted by -Top Rank-
            Who is to say Bradley vs Alexander winner will even be available. Thats 14 week turn around, and barring no injuries it's still a bit much to ask those guys to do back to back camps for one of the biggest fights of there career.

            As far as going to 135, again you show a complete lack of understanding of the sport with that comment. When has a guy who was on the a-side of a bout, had that much more drawing power.....went down 2 weight classes, just to prove a meaningless point? Again what leverage does Marquez hold to make Manny do that? Also why should Manny drop to 135 and then back to 147 for a fight in November. Your post and logic make no sense what's so ever.
            Why does he have to fight in May? He can EASILY say Ill fight the winner in the summer.



            Here you go acting like a manager again. As a fan you should want Pac to fight the BEST period. Why worry about "pull" and him dropping down to prove a "meaningless point".

            Its not about that. Its about a challenge which Shane is not. Its good to see Manny has REAL fans that will take him to task on his BS. Time to join that club.

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              #56
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              That could very well be the best scenario right now.

              But, TBH for me Floyd is just irrelevant right now. Until I hear something boxing related coming from his side he just irrelevant for the sport as far as I'm concerned.
              I'm gonna have to agree with you here, even though I remember you more for a Anti-Floyd guy when I was always a Pro-Floyd poster (to avoid the ******* ***** terms).

              Floyd is not showing me anything, giving me nothing. Just trivial nonsense on Facebook and Twitter and talking nonsense on obscure Hip-Hop Radio Stations. Until he at least starts making regular appearances on Boxing outlets, I'm not wasting time sticking up for him in here, although that used to be my favorite pastime.

              As it stands right now, War B-Hop and Wlad Klitschko

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                #57
                Manny vs Marquez
                - Good pick due to the Trilogy aspect of the fight.
                - Expecting this to be the easiest fight for Manny as I don't see Marquez winning at 140, 141, 142, 143, 144, 145, 146, 147.
                - For the above reason, it wouldn't be the best pick.
                - Over-priced himself but I state above why Marquez is not the best option (for me).
                - Due to haters, I wished Arum picked Marquez so that Manny proves the obvious.


                Manny vs Berto
                - Berto is undefeated.
                - Berto is young, has speed, some pop and skill.
                - Berto is not fully polished fighter yet.
                - Questionable opponents/resume.
                - Not well known by the casual fan.
                - Might not be the best financial decision.
                - Berto needs to have at least 1 fight against a top opponent before taking on Manny.
                - While I like this fight, I think Berto needs to improve on his resume a tad first.


                Manny vs Mosley
                - Mosley had 2 bad outings in a row. Therefore this fight is questionable and the least liked of the 3 options.
                - Mosley is OLD.
                - Mosley is strong, durable and has experience but may gas out as the fight progresses.
                - Manny is stylistically different than Floyd and Mora. Manny is more hittable.
                - I think this is a no win situation for Manny. BUT I think this is the best fight of the 3. Mosley has a better chance with someone like Manny who engages and is hittable than the slicker defensive minded Floyd and Mora. Mosley has a punchers chance and the probability of winning is higher than it was for Floyd for the reason that I mentioned above.


                Berto should have faced Mosley and Manny could have fought the winner. That would have been more acceptable.

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                • Khalid X
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                  #58
                  [QUOTE=No Ceilings;9841596]Ey Mike what happened to the fight in your avi [/QOUTE]

                  1. Manny is going to be fighting for a few more years. What Arum said made sense. If Manny plans of continuing then it makes no sense to face 3 guys in a row in which you give up 15-20 lbs. It wears on you physically and shortens your career. Everyone including Dibella and Martinez knew Pacquiaos next fight would be at WW but the plan/hope was to build it up for later on.

                  2. Manny will not face Martinez before Floyd. Manny would take a lot of damage in that fight and why jeopardize the biggest fight of your career. Let manny vs Floyd happen first (fights gonna happen in Nov you can bet me on that) and then lets talk about PAC vs Martinez.


                  FWIW PAC vs Martinez will happen. It's gonna get to the point where that is the only fight that will make sense.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by No Ceilings
                    Why does he have to fight in May? He can EASILY say Ill fight the winner in the summer.



                    Here you go acting like a manager again. As a fan you should want Pac to fight the BEST period. Why worry about "pull" and him dropping down to prove a "meaningless point".

                    Its not about that. Its about a challenge which Shane is not. Its good to see Manny has REAL fans that will take him to task on his BS. Time to join that club.
                    Again you show a complete lack of understanding on the sport of boxing. Marquez has no chance against Manny regardless of the weight. Manny would be this 148lb monster (come fight night) that destroyed Cotto, Margarito, Hatton and Clottey. Even at that it's a moot point as Marquez just priced himself out for the 3rd/4th when it comes to facing Manny.

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                    • ADP02
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by -Top Rank-

                      2. Manny will not face Martinez before Floyd. Manny would take a lot of damage in that fight and why jeopardize the biggest fight of your career. Let manny vs Floyd happen first (fights gonna happen in Nov you can bet me on that) and then lets talk about PAC vs Martinez.


                      FWIW PAC vs Martinez will happen. It's gonna get to the point where that is the only fight that will make sense.
                      I see it that way too. Why face Martinez now.

                      the only way I see Manny taking on Martinez first is if the Floyd fight never materializes and/or Manny wants to retire and Floyd is still not available.

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