Anti Pac-Mosley hate and here's why:

[Michael Hall]

You people act as if you don't know the business side of boxing.

- First of all, stop the asstalk about Berto at 147 and Bradley at 140. Pacquiao is a megastar, why on earth would he fight these young cats that have absolutely NO NAME FOR THEMSELVES. They can't even get a few thousand people to show up at their fights. If YOU were Pacquiao or his promoter you damn well would not make fights with these useless upcoming boxers. They're ants compared to the elite boxers that are known outside the boxing die hards. Do the words risk/reward ratio ring any bells?

- Secondly, find some better alternatives. Marquez? Please people, if I was Pacquiao I wouldn't make a fight with that ungrateful bad loser. Whether he priced himself out I really don't know, but at 147 he's in for an asswhooping. WHY THE HELL would Pac move down to 140?! People, HE IS THE DRAW, stop acting naieve and ******. There's no way Manny fokking Pacquiao is gonna move below his current weight class to fight some annoying Marquez. He already fought him twice, he had his chance.

- Tarnishing legacy? Hilarious some people actually believe this. We're talking about the P4P great. His legacy is already sealed. The only thing that can enhance it....is a fight with Mayweather. That's the stone cold truth and deal with it, stop crying like a little wimp about his legacy. He already has achieved god-like status...that's not gonna disappear by fighting Mosley or having a catchweight...idiots.

- The next person to say he's ducking Martinez needs to seriously evaluate their sanity.

So get it through your thick skulls. There is nothing on offer at Welterweight. Mosley wants to fight....Mosley will generate the most money.

For YOU this fight might not be marketeable, but that's what you said about the Margarito fight as well, look what happened. Boxingscene.com is NOT the real world.

I kinda got a deja vu reading all those silly reactions.....EVERYONE said this about the Bhop/Pascal fight as well....that the old fart would get beaten down hard.....look what happened.

I'm not guaranteeing Mosley Pac will be great, but I sure as hell understand why the fight's being made. There's a big difference between not wanting a fight to be made and not understanding why it's made. You people don't seem to know the difference, because apparently it's a disgrace to boxing....but there's really not much else to be done atm.

For the record, I don't like the fight. I love SSM and I think this is too dangerous to be getting into at his age. But the reactions here are just ridiculous, a sad state of affairs.

Yet you call Floyd a lil ****? LMAO! If you weren't such a hypocrite I'd actually agree that you made good points. However, if this was Mayweather fighting MOsley after coming off an ASS WHOOPIN and a DRAW, Mayweather would not be affored these excuses by you or the other haters.

Get off Pac's pee pee for a second and realize he fought JOSHUA CLOTTEY who has less of a fan base than ANDRE BERTO.

Explain that one. Explain how CLOTTEY made perfect BUSINESS SENSE.

I'll be waiting....

[deejd]

Calm down you little morons. I swear some of you guys are acting like this is Manny's last fight lol. Let Manny retire SSM from boxing and then he can make those fights with Marquez and Berto.

Terrible. No Mayweather, huh.

[Michael Hall]

Im not a *******, grow up you immature internet hero. Don't use those ****** ignorant terms on me.

I love Pretty Boy Floyd....i HATE money mayweather.

I am pro boxing and pro good fights....but the reality of the situation is dreadful at 147 for a star like Pac...that's why Mosley Pac is made. Some people just can't seem to handle that.

Again EXPLAIN HOW CLOTTEY made perfect business sense but Berto/Marquez/Martinez/Bradley/Williams does not.

[deejd]

Explain that one. Explain how CLOTTEY made perfect BUSINESS SENSE.

I'll be waiting....

It was a guaranteed win.

[Great Afrikan]

“I read them saying Mosley was huffing and puffing for air in the fourth or fifth round,” Arum told Marley. “To me, that is the real tipoff for an aging fighter. Even Big George Foreman did that in his 40s, but he always had that big, big punch, like in the (Michael) Moorer fight. What I’ve read is not very supportive to make any Mosley-Pacquiao bout. Look, he’s going to be 40 and he’s in the lighter weights, where speed is so important. He’s on a show with guys … old enough to be his son.

“I guess Shane needs the money due to his (divorce). I’ve always considered Shane to be a nice guy but this is what happens to fighters when they age. It’s like (Bernard) Hopkins: He still knows how to fight, but who wants to pay to see him now? His fights are not very scintillating. What you see with Hopkins, we’re beginning to see with Mosley.” - BOB ARUM

After the Sergio Mora fight.

[Michael Hall]

I just don't understand how the so called #1 pound for pound boxer can fight the likes of Clottey (coming of a loss), Margarito (was destroyed by Mosley a year before fighting pac) and now Mosley (destroyed by Mayweather a year befoe fighting pac) in back to back fights and still be considered the top dog.

De La Hoya, Mayweather, Tito never fought guys coming off of losses once they reached pound for pound #1 status.

When DLH fought his bums he sandwiched them in between great fights. Example: Ike Quartey (great), Oba Carr (average), Felix Trinidad (great).


That's how it's done.

Team Pac is taking the easy way out and his idiotic fans are cosigning every move. SMH

[Las Vegas,]

I just don't understand how the so called #1 pound for pound boxer can fight the likes of Clottey (coming of a loss), Margarito (was destroyed by Mosley a year before fighting pac) and now Mosley (destroyed by Mayweather a year befoe fighting pac) in back to back fights and still be considered the top dog.

De La Hoya, Mayweather, Tito never fought guys coming off of losses once they reached pound for pound #1 status.

When DLH fought his bums he sandwiched them in between great fights. Example: Ike Quartey (great), Oba Carr (average), Felix Trinidad (great).


That's how it's done.

Team Pac is taking the easy way out and his idiotic fans are cosigning every move. SMH

Exactly.

[V.WEBB]

“I read them saying Mosley was huffing and puffing for air in the fourth or fifth round,” Arum told Marley. “To me, that is the real tipoff for an aging fighter. Even Big George Foreman did that in his 40s, but he always had that big, big punch, like in the (Michael) Moorer fight. What I’ve read is not very supportive to make any Mosley-Pacquiao bout. Look, he’s going to be 40 and he’s in the lighter weights, where speed is so important. He’s on a show with guys … old enough to be his son.

“I guess Shane needs the money due to his (divorce). I’ve always considered Shane to be a nice guy but this is what happens to fighters when they age. It’s like (Bernard) Hopkins: He still knows how to fight, but who wants to pay to see him now? His fights are not very scintillating. What you see with Hopkins, we’re beginning to see with Mosley.” - BOB ARUM

After the Sergio Mora fight.

[Kimo]

Yet you call Floyd a lil ****? LMAO! If you weren't such a hypocrite I'd actually agree that you made good points. However, if this was Mayweather fighting MOsley after coming off an ASS WHOOPIN and a DRAW, Mayweather would not be affored these excuses by you or the other haters.

Get off Pac's pee pee for a second and realize he fought JOSHUA CLOTTEY who has less of a fan base than ANDRE BERTO.

Explain that one. Explain how CLOTTEY made perfect BUSINESS SENSE.

I'll be waiting....

First of all you assume I'm one of those mindless Pacman fans that just hates on Mayweather. I only hate on Mayweather for 1 thing and that's not getting the mega fight done. I love him as a boxer, and I loved PBF. The arrogant Money personality got to me a little though. So don't act like you know my point of view.

Clottey was an in-house fight as an alternative to May-Pac not being made. It obviously wasn't a genius idea cos the PPV didn't do THAT good. It was decent, not more than that. Nevertheless, all the $$$ stayed within Top Rank.

Look people, chill the **** out and realize I'm not some Pacquiao nuthugger. I don't trust Arum either. But it's not like he's boxing's only scumbag. I just think this outrage over the Mosley fight is ridiculous. It's not like anyone didnt see it coming, and for good reason as I explained before.

[Walt Liquor]

If I ever ducked a response to you, sorry cos you actually formulate proper replies unlike that ****** here in this thread.

I dont care about 'slick black' fighters cos I don't think in terms of race. Manny's legacy as the best P4P fighter of the modern era is pretty sealed in my opinion. How his opponents are picked lately....yeah it bothers people. I can understand that....but at the end of the day he's still that same fighter. Relatively speaking, the people that **** on his fights are only a handful. The PPV numbers speak for themselves.

The choices are pretty bleak, he still has a few fights coming so maybe he will fight JMM. But it won't be happening at 140, mark my words. He's not gonna move down guys, why would he? To please those few die hard fans that wanna see JMM-Pac 3 under the most similar possible conditions of the first two fights? Not realistic. Same with Bradley/Alexander....not happening. Pac's not gonna move down for these young cats guys. No way.

Regarding the money....Berto is undefeated and champion, but there are many champions in boxing no one has heard of in the mainstream. I don't even believe Berto actually deserves this fight with what he's been doing lately. (you can make a case for Shane as well, I'll give you that) Not that I don't wanna see it....but I can fully understand Team Pac and Arum not making that fight. And yeah...personally I do think there's a money difference.

Ideally...yes Pac fighting a slick boxer puncher is what we all want. But the best doesn't wanna fight him atm, so we get something with a bitter aftertaste.

I agree the most with the JMM/Legacy argument. Very little though, but yes another trilogy in the mix will add some flavour.

I'm just not seeing the argument you make when there's JMM out there.

MOre than a few diehard fans want to see that fight at 140. EVERYONE who knows boxing at all should and most do want that fight at 140. We all saw how JMM looked over 140 in that fight with floyd (who I agree is ducking pac like a felon ducking speed traps). JMM has never proven effective above 135 so they should meet in the middle.

Fighting Shane off his last 2 performances DEFINTIELY hurts pac's legacy.

I mean even Bradley would give pac's detractors a lot less to complain about.

The fight isn't even interesting considering Shane only throws one punch at a time and was smoked by floyd for 11 or 12 rounds.

I'll say it again. THere's one lost PPV sale right here.