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  • mr_kamado10
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    #261
    No one among the the three candidate for Pacman fight stand a chance of winning.
    Mosley last two fights are not impressive…But style make fight…He fought an over defensive and safety first fighter in Floyd and a runner in Mora which did not suit well to his style….Mosley is good fighting a fighter who doesn’t want to back-out in a fight…I think Mosley will make the first half of the fight very competitive.
    Marquez has not proven yet to be competitive above 135..His last fight against Floyd was a totally shutout where he was never a threat for 12 complete round..Floyd even scored a knockdown…Floyd was so dominant as it look like no one was in front of him during the fight…Mosley fared better than Marquez by almost putting Floyd in the canvass and made Floyd doing the chicken dance and holding him for dear life…
    Marquez has no business in higher weight while Mosley has a puncher chance against Pacman…While Berto is still raw and inexperience against an elite fighter…He needs to fight a name fighter like Cotto to test himself if his record is no fluke…

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    • champ_kw
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      #262
      Originally posted by el malo
      Pacquiao: I think I'd like to fight Marquez.
      Arum: Did you say Mosley?
      Pacquiao: No, Marquez. We have unfinished business and we had two great fights.
      Arum: Did you say Mosley, or did I hear you say Miguel Cotto for a rematch?
      Pacquiao: Well, maybe Berto. He's a good, young fighter. He's very fast.
      Arum: Mosley, that's what I thought you said.
      Pacquiao: Bob, I think I definitely want the third fight with Marquez. That's what my coach, Freddie Roach, wants. That's what the fans want. That's what I want.
      Arum: So if it's the fight with Mosley you want, then the fight with Mosley it shall be.
      Pacquiao: Lock up Marquez, please. Let's get it done.
      Arum: Fine, we'll get Mosley, whatever you say. You're the boss. Someone get me James Prince on the phone so we can lock this up.

      While Arum was getting Mosley and his adviser, Prince, on the phone, boxing fans around the world were reaching for a barf bag.
      Don't be so quick to dismiss blame from Manny's end. He and Bob are a farce.

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      • stick&move
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        #263
        As a boxing fan I believe that Shane deserves a final payday after all those great wars during his career. Yet the true 2nd best option for the sport is a trilogy between Pac and JMM. JMM is one of my favorite fighters and it’s unfortunate he doesn’t have the persona to draw in casual fans. This guy is one of the greatest Mexican warriors ever, yet an unproven fighter like Canelo can draw more fans.

        Unfortunately every fighter will have to bid against other fighters when negotiating with Pac, with Floyd being the only exception. JMM has 2 close fights with Pac w/c is his only bargaining chip. Yet he fails to realize that he’s bidding against other boxers. He’s also promoted by GBP and their rivalry with Top rank is not ending anytime soon. Finally his obsessive behavior towards Pac is destroying his chances as his tactics to land a fight just seem childish and offensive to Pac.

        In the next round of negotiations JMM will have to bid against Berto, and Bradley/Alexander all non GBP fighters who will bid accordingly to their market value. I just hope that JMM learns from this bidding experience if not, Pac’s next fight after Mosley is another one that’s good for business and not good for boxing.

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        • mr_kamado10
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          #264
          No one among the the three candidate for Pacman fight stand a chance of winning.
          Mosley last two fights are not impressive…But style make fight…He fought an over defensive and safety first fighter in Floyd and a runner in Mora which did not suit well to his style….Mosley is good fighting a fighter who doesn’t want to back-out in a fight…I think Mosley will make the first half of the fight very competitive.
          Marquez has not proven yet to be competitive above 135..His last fight against Floyd was a totally shutout where he was never a threat for 12 complete round..Floyd even scored a knockdown…Floyd was so dominant as it look like no one was in front of him during the fight…Mosley fared better than Marquez by almost putting Floyd in the canvass and made Floyd doing the chicken dance and holding him for dear life…
          Marquez has no business in higher weight while Mosley has a puncher chance against Pacman…While Berto is still raw and inexperience against an elite fighter…He needs to fight a name fighter like Cotto to test himself if his record is no fluke…

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          • supergunner07
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            #265
            Despite what the record says most boxing fans know that Pac lost twice to Marquez, so Pac, Roach & Arum can't just act their way out of not giving what fans want which at least the trilogy between Marq & Pac

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            • OpaiSoma
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              #266
              Marquez had 2x chance, and Pacquiao beat his ass. He needs to go back in line, time had pass let it go you dont belong in 140lbs+

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              • LeadUppercut
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                #267
                Originally posted by fcastro1
                only a biased fool would say marquez had it all his way in the rematch. Pac took he him to ***** street a few times. I love the way people exaggerate to make their man look great. May i add he fought a weight drained pac and couldnt beat him.
                STOP, Mr Expert.....

                It is far more correct to say that Manny could not clearly beat a past-prime Marquez who was fighting above his best weight.

                Get it right.

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                • mr_kamado10
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                  #268
                  Originally posted by LeadUppercut
                  STOP, Mr Expert.....

                  It is far more correct to say that Manny could not clearly beat a past-prime Marquez who was fighting above his best weight.

                  Get it right.
                  A version of Pacman who was not on his peak, one dimensional, weight drained and still able to beat(even scored 4 knockdown) a primed Marquez at his most comfortable weight from 126-130....Bobby Pacquio, brother of Manny, is the best match up for Marquez at this stage of his ailing career...I think Marquez will have a competitive fight against Bobby...What helluva fight....
                  Last edited by mr_kamado10; 12-23-2010, 10:02 PM.

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                  • LeadUppercut
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                    #269
                    Originally posted by mr_kamado10
                    A version of Pacman who was not on his peak, one dimensional, weight drained and still able to beat(even scored 4 knockdown) a primed Marquez at his most comfortable weight from 126-130....Bobby Pacquio, brother of Manny, is the best match up for Marquez at this stage of his ailing career...I think Marquez will have a competitive fight against Bobby...What helluva fight....
                    Ummm..... NO.

                    When they fought at 126, Manny knocked Juan down 3 times in the first round and broke his nose..... and he STILL couldn't beat him

                    " we all know who won that fight "
                    ~ Floyd Mayweather Jnr.

                    BTW... WTF ?

                    How the *** did Manny lose that fight LMAO Is that the single worst performance in boxing history by a top fighter who finished on his feet?

                    One-dimensional you say ?

                    Exposed, is what happened there.

                    The second fight was not at JMM's best weight, he is a career-featherweight who fought at 126 until past his prime..... and Marquez beat Manny like a red-headed stepson in that fight, we all saw it

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                    • Red_Menace
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                      #270
                      Originally posted by OpaiSoma
                      Marquez had 2x chance, and Pacquiao beat his ass. He needs to go back in line, time had pass let it go you dont belong in 140lbs+
                      Beat his ass? Which fights were you watching. In the first fight, Pac had one great round and Marquez took most of the rest of the fight. The second one was deadly close the entire way.

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