Mosley had a better chance with Berto. Even with the young lion I thought his chances were slim. He looked horrible in his last 2 bouts. I guess Manny will retire him like he did Oscar. I see Mosley quitting on the stool or getting stopped.
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Originally posted by FlacoExplosivo View PostNot hate i call things how i see them and at 147lbs Berto is the one who makes the most sense competition wise. Honestly i credit Pac if he were to beat Berto b/c although Berto hasn't fought the best out there YET, he is the current champ and that can't be overlooked. Cuz Mosley is just a name, his abilities are not what they used to be. And we are not talking about Berto vs Margarito we are talking about Berto vs Pac (two different style of opponents). I ain't saying Berto is the man cuz he is far from it but he is the best opponent for Pac IMO. Don't think he would beat him but i'd like to see this fight.
The reason Manny is destroying the guys in front of him is cuz the level of competition is not there. Styles make fights and the people that have been put in front of him make him look amazing. If you don't already, enter a boxing gym and learn the sweet science from a fighters stand point you'll see things in a different perspective and understand why Manny smashed his past 5 opponents and it ain't cuz he is a GOD in boxing. It is about the opponents styles and somewhat due to draining them (DLH and Cotto).
I agree with JMM vs Pac at 140lbs I would like. but i just think JMM's style and his boxing IQ is what gives Pac problems not his size. He is a counter puncher who forces Manny to THINK b4 he attacks. Something Manny's 5 previous opponents haven't done.
I ain't a hater, Pac has great talent and i never discredit his boxing abilities. up till 2008 he was challenging himself. But now being as good as he is he avoids the tough fights against the technical styles who have given him problems in the past. I call it how i see it.
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Originally posted by SaiZelion View PostThis is the most irresponsible statement an adult can make. Manny Pacquiao is his own man. His decisions are not the blame of Mayweather. Manny could choose to fight Marquez, Berto, Bradley, or Martinez at 154lbs.
The fact that you are advocating Manny's lack of accountability for his own actions is ridiculous. I guess when I get a speeding ticket, I should blame the manufacture for making a car that goes well over the speed limit knowing well I had a choice simply ease up off the gas.
Regardless whether or not Marquez, Berto, Bradley, or Martinez would not have been as big as a PPV draw, they are all much tougher fights for Pacquiao. No excuses for Manny, be accountable for your own decisions.
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Originally posted by romebyko View PostI'm not saying your wrong about why Pac has won his last fights,I did a lil boxing and my boxing IQ is not the best but it an't the worst either ya dig..But it takes a certain kinda fighter to do what he has done and if ya boxed then ya can see that..Berto imo would not beat Shane right now I don't see it happening and I don't even believe he believes he can beat Shane which is why he priced himself out asking for 50/50 when Shane had just come off a how many mill selling PPV??All's I'm saying is Shane is the best option and makes more sense then Berto and JMM..Berto has a belt but has not tried to unify or fight anybody of note to make a name for himself so therefore has not made a name for himself so why should Manny fight him??Ya dig..
No i think Berto beats Shane now. Berto just has to counter punch Shane and fight smart by boxing. Shane has trouble with boxers who fight smart. If he fights like a Marquez keeping the right distance between him and Shane and catches Shane lunging in he beats shane. By then Shane will be frustrated and Berto starts to open up going to the body and tiring him as the fight goes on. Berto has the speed to do that to Shane. Shane ain't no bum but he ain't the same as he was at 135lbs and during the DLH days. That is how I see it.
Manny has a chance to win the WBC belt against a legit opponent that is why he should face Berto. If he is gonna stay at 147lbs and do like the legends of this beautiful sport have done and unify the division then Berto should have been next. That is why, and the money follows Pac regardless so that is never an issue.
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PPV numbers will be bad. Arum is an a$$hole. After the Mora fight Arym said Mosely is too old. Now that he left Golden boy suddenly he is going to give Manny hell?
Vs Cotto Lost when he should have schooled Miguel
Vs Mayorga looked old and Terrible
Vs Mayweather was completely dominated
Vs Mora looked completely lost
Vs Manny I don't know because I won't watch and neither should any self respecting fight fan.
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¿Greedy ass SENILE Arum Fielded offers from all 3(Mosley, Marquez & Berto)? YEA RIGHT!!! & it's NO surprise that he immediately DISMISSED Marquez with THE SAME OLD BULL S H I T GREEDY ASS SENILE ARUM EXCUSE that his demands WERE UNREASONABLE!!! & even before Arum heard Berto's offer, he was already saying "THAT BERTO WAS GOING TO ASK FOR TOO MUCH MONEY!!! Don't get Me wrong I think Mosley vs Pacquiao is a good match & I also think it's gonna be a good fight...But lets face it, when Mosley was ONLY fighting under "Golden Boy" & after he ANNIHILATED Arum's Margacheto He was NEVER CONSIDERED OR EVEN MENTIONED AS A POSSIBLE OPPONENT FOR PACQUIAO OR FOR THAT MATTER ANY OTHER TOP RANK FIGHTER!! Mosley wanted a rematch against Cotto & Arum said that since Cotto had already beaten him THERE WAS NO REASON FOR A REMATCH!! & NOW the ONLY reason Mosley got the shot at Pacquiao was because HE'S THE ONLY FIGHTER(out the 3) THAT'S NOT FIGHTING UNDER ANOTHER PROMOTER'S BANNER & GREEDY ASS ARUM DOESN'T HAVE TO DIVIDE ANYTHING WITH NO OTHER COMPANY & NO MATTER HOW LOW AN OFFER ANY OTHER FIGHTER MAKES, IF HE'S SIGNED BY ANOTHER COMPANY, ARUM IS GONNA SAY THE SAME S H I T AS ALWAYS-->THEY OVERPRICED THEMSELVES, DEMANDS WERE UNREASONABLE, THEY ARE ASKING FOR TOO MUCH ECT, ECT!!!!!ARUM'S GREEDY ASS ATTITUDE IS JUST HURTING THE SPORT OF BOXING IN GENERAL!!!Plain & simple ARUM'S IS FULL OF S H I T!!!
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Originally posted by FlacoExplosivo View PostNo doubt i can see Pacs abilities as a fighter. he is gifted no one ever questions that. His opposition is what has made him look as good as he has and that is what i question (his opposition selection).
No i think Berto beats Shane now. Berto just has to counter punch Shane and fight smart by boxing. Shane has trouble with boxers who fight smart. If he fights like a Marquez keeping the right distance between him and Shane and catches Shane lunging in he beats shane. By then Shane will be frustrated and Berto starts to open up going to the body and tiring him as the fight goes on. Berto has the speed to do that to Shane. Shane ain't no bum but he ain't the same as he was at 135lbs and during the DLH days. That is how I see it.
Manny has a chance to win the WBC belt against a legit opponent that is why he should face Berto. If he is gonna stay at 147lbs and do like the legends of this beautiful sport have done and unify the division then Berto should have been next. That is why, and the money follows Pac regardless so that is never an issue.
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