Comments Thread For: Pacquiao-Mosley Possible at 148, For WBC 154 Title

[LeadUppercut]

You are DELUSIONAL, dude!! LOL The big giveaway that you're delusional....you name call like a moronic child. You don't even have the ability to explain why you believe those are "lies". You just link and say "lie". You can't even explain it!!

" name-call " ..... " You can't even explain it " ?????

You dopey pig-ignorant ****.

I have REPEATEDLY explained why ?

HERE IS BOB ARUM LYING TO YOU.....
Bob Arum publicly stated on numerous occasions that he personally negotiated a deal with GBP, who forwarded it to Mayweather for approval. Then he placed a two week " deadline " on the table, even going to the trouble of putting a count-down timer on the Top Rank website.....

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=29293

HERE IS BOB ARUM ADMITTING IT.....
Then, after Bob Arum's conference call, Schaefer immediately released a statement which forced Arum to admit that both him and Ross Greenburg had NEVER spoken with anyone from GBP.....

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=29324

THE DEADLINE WAS A SHAM !!

WHAT SORT OF NEGOTIATION HAS.....
" No meetings, no talks, no agreements, no contracts, no deals.....
..... and ABSOLUTELY NO NEGOTIATION " ???

And here is why he did it

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=33218

The point is, you have never even attempted to explain the lie by Bob Arum.

Explain to me how it is even slightly possible for an official negotiation to have taken place, when Arum was forced to admit that he faked a negotiation and then slapped a deadline on it?

Team Mayweather publicly stated that the phone calls from Greenburg were NOT part of an official negotiation.

You are quite happy to completely ignore that lie. You just stick your head back up your arse, and insist that a fight of that magnitude could be made by a couple of simple calls from Ross Greenburg..... calls that Team Mayweather insist were not official negotiations.....

http://sports.yahoo.com/box/blog/box_experts/post/Niceties-end-Team-Mayweather-calls-out-Arum-and?urn=box-257098

Just another dishonest arsehole, who just so happens to be a Manny-fan.

What a coincidence

Answer my question, or *** off and play with your Manny-doll.

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No doubt that if it benefits anyone its Mosley. Its more of the point behind it. When a LEGIT JMW wants to fight for his belt, they say JMW is too big. When a legit WW steps up they say they wont draw enough, which is contradicting as Clottey didn't. When a legit JWW steps up they demand WW. Its picking and choosing certain fighters at certain weight classes at certain weights.

Mosley should not even be in the mix at JMW or even WW. If Pac wants to fight at JMW, it should be vs Martinez. If he wants to fight at WW he should fight Berto. If he wants to fight at JWW, JMM is the man to fight.

All this picking and choosing certain fighters at certain weight classes at certain weights is just pathetic and contradicting.

-De La Hoya at 147 but not Cotto for the WW title
-Clottey a gate keeper #5 WW coming off a loss AT WW (no catch)
-Margarito a cheating career WW for a vacant JMW title (at a catch)
-Possibly defending the JMW title vs a career WW that's 40 years old and hasn't won a fight in 2 years (at a catch)
-OR Possibly defending his WW title vs Mosley who again shouldn't be fighting Pac based off his previous fights.

There are other options out there and Mosley should be the very last option. But clearly its about money. Yet Mosley NOW wont make them as much as if Pac where to fight the undefeated WBC champion in Berto to unify the titles or even JMM at 140 that has A LOT of history.

Just my opinion.

Perhaps Pac will fight Roy Jones Jr. next at a catchweight of Manny's choosing for all of the previous titles of Roy?

Pull Tito Trinidad from retirement and fight him next as a bonus?

[deejd]

that counter puncher you're talking about also struggled against pac so what's your point? and martinez is not as skilled as jmm so again what's your point?

and what's about utilizing the ring? how can it help to win a fight against someone like pac?

Does JMM move around the ring as much as Martinez? Pacquiao's had fighters who stand in front of him. It's too easy to say Pacquiao would beat [insert fighter] if, IF, they were the same size. Fight Martinez at '54 or let it go. Besides, Martinez is ducking Pacquiao.

[deejd]

LOL way to not actually have to defend your point of view. Excellent job of tippy toeing around all that mess!

If you can't connect the dots, oh well. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not ignorant or a kid that's posting, troll if you want though.

[AIR_KENG]

No doubt that if it benefits anyone its Mosley. Its more of the point behind it. When a LEGIT JMW wants to fight for his belt, they say JMW is too big. When a legit WW steps up they say they wont draw enough, which is contradicting as Clottey didn't. When a legit JWW steps up they demand WW. Its picking and choosing certain fighters at certain weight classes at certain weights.

Mosley should not even be in the mix at JMW or even WW. If Pac wants to fight at JMW, it should be vs Martinez. If he wants to fight at WW he should fight Berto. If he wants to fight at JWW, JMM is the man to fight.

All this picking and choosing certain fighters at certain weight classes at certain weights is just pathetic and contradicting.

-De La Hoya at 147 but not Cotto for the WW title
-Clottey a gate keeper #5 WW coming off a loss AT WW (no catch)
-Margarito a cheating career WW for a vacant JMW title (at a catch)
-Possibly defending the JMW title vs a career WW that's 40 years old and hasn't won a fight in 2 years (at a catch)
-OR Possibly defending his WW title vs Mosley who again shouldn't be fighting Pac based off his previous fights.

There are other options out there and Mosley should be the very last option. But clearly its about money. Yet Mosley NOW wont make them as much as if Pac where to fight the undefeated WBC champion in Berto to unify the titles or even JMM at 140 that has A LOT of history.

Just my opinion.

Agree on all points. On one end of the story though, in real economic sense, a fight with Berto really does not sell to the casual fans. If we consider the Clottey fight again, he wasn't a draw but the venue was. They were selling Manny and the venue, not Manny and Clottey.

For JMM, he just has to agree for the fight to happen at 147. He knows Manny won't go as heavy as the limit, he'll probably go down to 144 as he did in his last fight. JMM can come in at 140 and he wouldn't have to sacrifice as much speed.

As for Mosley, he is just a tune-up fight and nothing more.

[deejd]

you mean like this...

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Exactly. Though Martinez isn't as technically sound as Marquez, he's still has great mechanics and his athletic ability allows him to be more mobile. Again though, we're in no position to say what would happen because Martinez is ducking, he's afraid to go down to '47 and see Pacquiao.

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- 147 for PAc's WW belt

- Or 154 for Maravill.....oops, Pac's JMW belt



154 or 147. Either one is fine!! We don't want to see a CW of 141-146 for the WW title or a CW of 148-153 for the JMW title.

Pick which division you want to fight in and let the opponent come in at the division limit.

[deejd]

Manny Pacquiao: “I feel like I don’t need Mayweather to make my career. I fought the best and anyone willing to face me. I want it, and feel the fans deserve the Mayweather fight. I want to prove to everyone that it wasn’t me who didn’t want the fight. That’s why I made the concession to take anything [blood tests] he wants at any time. Even during the fight before the sixth round if he wanted! What else can I do? I hope we get the fight done soon. Let’s get it on.”

http://beatsboxingmayhem.wordpress.c...tics-as-usual/

So why did he lie?

[adp023]

You are quite happy to completely ignore that lie. You just stick your head back up your arse, and insist that a fight of that magnitude could be made by a couple of simple calls from Ross Greenburg..... calls that Team Mayweather insist were not official negotiations.....

http://sports.yahoo.com/box/blog/box_experts/post/Niceties-end-Team-Mayweather-calls-out-Arum-and?urn=box-257098

A quote from Floyd's boyfriend Leonard Ellerbe is your overwhelming piece of evidence???? lol

Ellerbe had to say that LIE because Haymon didn't have the balls to say it!! If Haymon said "no negotiations", it would be a LAWSUIT waiting to happen!!!

Ellerbe was NOT a party to the negotiations!! So he is free to say ANYTHING HE WANTS WITHOUT LEGAL CONSEQUENCES!! Ellerbe had no direct contact with Arum or Greenberg. So he can claim being "misinformed" by Haymon and Golden Boy, if the truth comes out!

HAYMON negotiated using Greenberg as the middleman. Arum & Greenberg confirmed it!!! If Haymon wasn't talking to Greenberg, then he could expose them and slap HBO & Top Rank with a lawsuit for lying!! But Haymon couldn't say **** without incriminating himself, so Floyd got his boyfriend Ellerbe to make up "no negotiations"!!!

LeadUppercut....you seriously have no brain!!!

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