Comments Thread For: Pacquiao-Mosley Possible at 148, For WBC 154 Title

[Buffalo]

Damn I thought this was about manny mosley. Floyd has nothing to do with the fact that manny would fight mosley at 148.......

Seems like it can't be true. That just makes no sense. Does Arum enjoy jabbing boxing fans in the eye or what?

[adp023]

Lead uppercut - I'll make it simple.....Mayweather asked for the 14-day and manny acceped. May then ran. Read and weep. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/8698753.stm. On top of that, you go ahead and give blow jobs to a confirmed racist and low-life and look like pea brain in the process. If May does time, maybe you can give him more blow jobs behind bars. Scum always attracts scum.

That article is May 2010. In HBO 24/7 in October 2010, Pac's team confirmed they conceded even further to 7 DAYS and Mayweather refused!!! Stating "no negotiations" and "on vacation". Floyd looked like a straight-up FOOL to the world!!! Then the MAYWEATHER MELTDOWN started!!

[pelonxsoldier28]

Wow, another catch weight for Pac, sorry to say it but I can no longer support the Pacman.

[COYS]

there are no words to desribe how this makes me feel

[richardt]

Uppercut, I mean child....sorry to torch you with your own gun but the article shows there WERE negotiations between Arum and Hayman with Greenburg as the middleman. It uses the word NEGOTIATIONS. You are too ****** for words. Go home little child...you cannot even ****ing read!!!!!! http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=29324

Next time just point the torch at your own head instead of handing it over to me to torch you. Read the article again and then shut the **** up.

[Elotero]

When Manny and Mayweather were teens, they were the same size....

yesh i know JMW is 148-154....so why have a catchweight @148? lol Why wont you just fight between 148-154?

No I am not comparing Baldomir to anyone...what im saying is that Baldomir has done something that Cotto, Clottey or Margarito has NEVER done, and thats beat a WW Champion for a WW Belt...he actually beat that LAST undisputed WW Champ....Zab Judah...has Clottey ever been champ? Has Margarito beat a champ? oh yeah he beat Cotto with bricks.....wait has Cotto beat a WW Champ or has all his titles come in VACANT TITLE BOUTS.

You wanna talk this lineal bullshyt....fact is..Baldomir was ranked #1 @WW when Mayweather fought him..guess who was #2?.....Margarito...I wonder why all these EXPERTS and WRITERS has Margarito #2 behind the cinderella journeyman Baldomir....

Actually, didnt you say Mannys Career @ WW is better than Mayweather? How?..from what I recall Mayweather has beat 2 #1 Ranked WW's....the first being Baldomir, the 2nd being Mosley...can Manny say that?

What do you think of this technicality bull**** being spewed, Its ok for him to catchweight at 148 because its "within the limit"? Bull**** right? I mean you can come in at whatever weight you want as long as its within the limit but dont limit the other guy. Thats the cheat.

[gonhlywd]

A Message To Top Rank

2010 - Manny Pacquiao v Antonio Margarito

2010 - Kelly Pavlik v Julio Chavez Jr. (Fight was cancelled due to Pavlik's unfortunate addiction to alcohol, for which he is currently in treatment)

2010 - Miguel Cotto v Yuri Foreman

2009 - Miguel Cotto v Manny Pacquiao

2009 - Miguel Cotto v Joshua Clottey

2008 - Miguel Cotto v Antonio Margarito

2008 - Manny Pacquiao v Joshua Clottey

2008 - Miguel Cotto v Alfonso Gomez

2008 - Manny Pacquiao v David Diaz

1999 - Arum previously denies, but later admits (under oath) during a Federal racketeering trial that he bribed the International Boxing Federation President by paying him $100,000 in order to get the IBF to sanction a George Foreman fight.

1995 - Arum is penalized $125,000 by the Nevada State Athletic Commission for a bribe to get one of his fighters a higher ranking

** It must be noted that the other promoters identified in the Federal sting were New Jersey based promoter Dino Duva, who admitted paying a $25,000 bribe, promoter Cedric Kushner admitted paying $100,000 in bribes and Promoter Don King who was on video tape "regularly" paying for rankings for his fighters.

As the former Harvard Law Student and Federal prosecutor would do in trying to make a case, I am trying to establish a pattern. The pattern is that Bob Arum has been and continues to keep his fighters fighting "in-house," as other promoters call him, "In-House Bob." Quite fitting I believe. The other is to establish the corrupt nature of the promoter, specifically for this article, Bob Arum.
Bob Arum takes 26% of Manny's and other fighters' purse and as long as Manny and other Top Rank fighters continue to fight Top Rank fighters, Bob will continue to take in upwards up 52% of the total fight purse.
While this may sound like good business to some of you, the fact that there are very good candidates in other promotional companies that would give Manny Pacquiao and other Top Rank belt holders a very good fight, and would actually display some lateral movement, probably scares old Bob.
I for one believe that Andre Berto should be the fighter who is next in line for Manny. (I obviously would like to see the fight that the rest of the world would like to see, but let's put that debate aside for now). However, after watching Berto's last performance, I'm sure Bob does not want to take that chance. This is the same reason that Bob recently turned down $5 million for a Sergio Martinez v Miguel Cotto match. Bob knows that Miguel would lose his WBA belt and would rather match him up with another Top Rank fighter so as to pad his pockets more and keep a belt-holder in the stable, regardless of the outcome. It's a win-win for Bob, but nothing but a losing scenario for fight fans. And now with Shane Mosley all but signed to Top Rank, maybe just for a Pacquiao fight, Manny will surely fight another Top Rank fighter.
The below is a recent quote from Bob regarding the backlash from fans and bloggers regarding a match-up between Manny Pacquiao and Shane Mosley...

"I don't care. I don't care what the so-called boxing fans and bloggers have to say. I really don't."

You don't care? You don't care about the people that spend their hard-earned money, especially in these historically bad economic times? Who do you think pays to watch your fights?

The below quote is Bob's take on HBO and Showtime putting together fights on their own. (only because Arum proposed fights that neither company wanted to put up money for, I'm guessing they were all Top Rank fighters if I follow history)

"Instead of working with promoters, like they have done in the past, they have become promoters themselves. They make the fights just like promoters and pay fighters", Arum said. "It's their money and they can do what they want, but Don King doesn't have to go along with it and neither do I. King and I can get along without HBO or Showtime."

To which I say good luck you selfish prick.

Last but not least is my favorite Bob Arum quote...

"I was lying yesterday. Today I am telling the truth."

Bob Arum, YOU are what is ruining this sport. The prevention of the best fighters fighting the best opposition will continue to hinder the sport and prevent it from reaching it's potential as it has previously in decades past.
You are, and have been ruining the sport I love and kept me out of trouble as a youth. I truly believe that if it was not for the sport of boxing and my local PAL, I would not have graduated college with two degrees, much less graduated from High School. This is why I am so boisterous about this topic, because I see the problem with the sport that helped me and so many others through adolescence in sh_t neighborhoods, yet nothing seems to be done about it. So I am calling for a boycott of Top Rank Promotions. If we cannot have a single commission in charge, then we must weed out what is wrong with the sport and start with the promoters who refuse to "not care" what the people who pay them want.
The fighter is the only one on the ring taking the beating. There is no pension, no medical insurance and no one to give any legal advise. In fact, some promoters actually prohibit fighters from seeking outside, independent legal opinions. So again, if we cannot have a single commission, then we must weed out the corrupt promoter and start at the "Top."
Boycott Top Rank.

[Cash Cow]

It amazes me how the mind of a Pacwh*re thinks. When you question his choice of opponents, they say they were bigger than Pac and that in their minds validates him fighting tomato cans. But, when it comes to him fightign a bigger guy that can actually fight like say, Sergio Martinez, Pac is too little. I'm confused. Which one is it?

Man its not that Martinez is too big, its cause he has skill and isnt a stationary fighter.
Is Martinez that much bigger and stronger than Margarito?

Margarito Height = 5'11
Martinez Height = 5'10

Margarito Reach = 73 inches
Martinez Reach = 76 inches

Margarito KO% = 59%
Martinez KO% = 50%
Looks to me that they are about the same size

[Elotero]

Uppercut, I mean child....sorry to torch you with your own gun but the article shows there WERE negotiations between Arum and Hayman with Greenburg as the middleman. It uses the word NEGOTIATIONS. You are too ****** for words. Go home little child...you cannot even ****ing read!!!!!! http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=29324

Next time just point the torch at your own head instead of handing it over to me to torch you. Read the article again and then shut the **** up.

How can you tell a Pac Stan is scared?

In a Mosely/Pac thread all they say is "...but, but Mayweather ....."

Your boy is a fraud. Deal with that instead of the old news.

[LeadUppercut]

Lead uppercut - I'll make it simple.....Mayweather asked for the 14-day and manny acceped.

Rubbish kid, that simply did not happen. During the only official negotiation, Mayweather agreed to EVERYTHING, 50/50 that silly 10mil per pound penalty EVERYTHING. The fight fell through because Manny would NOT AGREE to random blood testing within 24 days.....
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=27427

May then ran. Read and weep. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/8698753.stm.

Your link is dated 6 months after the negotiation date. Kid, to officially "agree" to something, it has to be during an official negotiation.

Most of the developed world wondered if Manny's bizarre weight gain or 15lbs of muscle in less than 18 months, and then subsequent refusal to submit to random blood testing, were inextricably connected

Manny's sudden apparent "willingness" to accept harmless blood tests, was a PR joke, because at that stage Manny was negotiating with himself.

Mayweather had been stating since April - via statements from Leonard Ellerbe - that he was not interested in fighting again in 2010.

The rest of your post was just more ranting about Mayweather.