Comments Thread For: Shaw: Dawson Has To Knock Pascal Out To Win in Canada!

[Kenny Blankenship]

Shaw is a moron and his bias can't help but make itself shown.

He complained about Funeka being robbed in Canada. I didn't see the fight but I'm told that he beat Guzman from pillar to post and couldn't get the win.

Here's the problem with Shaw's reasoning when comparing the dawson-pascal fight to the funeka-guzman fight.

Guzman's not Canadian, he's Dominican.

Shaw compalined "we couldn't get a decision up in Canada, we have to knock the guy out".

Last time I checked Dominicans aren't considered Canadian's, so what does he mean when he says "we can't get a decision". Funeka didn't fight a Canadian, so what is this idiot's point?

These promoters all talk out of their ass because that's what they all are...asses!

[deejd]

Dawson was well on his way to stopping Pascal in the 11th or 12th until the cut. He certainly fought a lackluster fight but the momentum definitely shifted when he rocked Pascal late.

[zzat]

No he doesn't. Hopkins arguably dropped 4 of the first 5 rounds and got knocked down twice, and got a draw out of it. That suggests that Dawson would win if he won the majority of the rounds and keeps his ass off the canvas.

Here then Mathematics of what you're suggesting.

Out of a possible 120 points:

Hopkins dropped 4 rounds => 120 - 4 = 116
Hopkins knocked down twice => 116 - 2 = 114

12 rounds minus 4 rounds is 8 rounds

Therefore Pascal has 120 - 8 = 112.

According to you the scores should be 114-112 for Hopkins.
You should be a judge because one of the judges got exactly those same scores.

So Shaw is correct in saying Dawson must KO Pascal to win in Canada.

[zzat]

Shaw is a moron and his bias can't help but make itself shown.

He complained about Funeka being robbed in Canada. I didn't see the fight but I'm told that he beat Guzman from pillar to post and couldn't get the win.

Here's the problem with Shaw's reasoning when comparing the dawson-pascal fight to the funeka-guzman fight.

Guzman's not Canadian, he's Dominican.

Shaw compalined "we couldn't get a decision up in Canada, we have to knock the guy out".

Last time I checked Dominicans aren't considered Canadian's, so what does he mean when he says "we can't get a decision". Funeka didn't fight a Canadian, so what is this idiot's point?

These promoters all talk out of their ass because that's what they all are...asses!

It's all about the promoter's fighter.

[bojangles1987]

Here then Mathematics of what you're suggesting.

Out of a possible 120 points:

Hopkins dropped 4 rounds => 120 - 4 = 116
Hopkins knocked down twice => 116 - 2 = 114

12 rounds minus 4 rounds is 8 rounds

Therefore Pascal has 120 - 8 = 112.

According to you the scores should be 114-112 for Hopkins.
You should be a judge because one of the judges got exactly those same scores.

So Shaw is correct in saying Dawson must KO Pascal to win in Canada.

I didn't say he only dropped four rounds, I had it 7-5 Hopkins, with the two knockdowns making it a draw. Because of those knockdowns, and the early hole, if you give Pascal ANY of the close rounds like 10 or 12, you have a draw. If Dawson were to win 8 rounds and not hit the canvas, nothing about the judges in the Hopkins-Pascal fight suggests he wouldn't get a fair decision. Hopkins only got the draw because of those knockdowns, if he keeps his feet on even one of those, he wins.

[zzat]

I didn't say he only dropped four rounds, I had it 7-5 Hopkins, with the two knockdowns making it a draw. Because of those knockdowns, and the early hole, if you give Pascal ANY of the close rounds like 10 or 12, you have a draw. If Dawson were to win 8 rounds and not hit the canvas, nothing about the judges in the Hopkins-Pascal fight suggests he wouldn't get a fair decision. Hopkins only got the draw because of those knockdowns, if he keeps his feet on even one of those, he wins.

So you agree with the 113-113 score. Anyway I can't really give you a good discussion on this fight cause I anly saw round 1 and 12. The Knock down in round 1 Hopkins was hit on the back of the head. Round 12 was Hopkins cause he landed more punches and was the one bringing the fight to Pascal. I did not see round 10 but two judges scored it for Hopkins while the other judge scored it 10-10.

I did see the Funeka and Dawson fights though. The Funeka fight was a clear robbery while the ref in the Dawson fight saved Pascal from being KO'd.

I agree with Shaw on this one.

[Kris Silver]

Shaw's got a loose tongue.

His guy lost fair, Hopkins did not so should get the 1st rematch.

Him getting in on this war of countries and officiating doesn't help.

Shaw's always seemed too USA versus world to me.

There's been plenty of controversial decisions in the US.

[King Ju-Ju]

idk how any1 could have given pascal more then 3 rounds. and i was going 4 him, i hate hopkins but he got jerked big time.

[Arthurius]

Shaw is such a whiner!

What is Shaw complainning about? Dawson lost his fight fair and square! His cut was really bad and a referee from any country would have stopped it. Pascal was far ahead and there's nothing else to add about this. Plus, the idea of Dawson knocking Pascal out is just such a joke, Pascal doesn't go down and Dawson is not a hitter.

About the Guzman vs Funeka fight (the first one), I had myself a draw (though I'd understand why Funeka thought he did enough to win it). Still, that has nothing to do with Canada. Everybody should remember that for that fight (november 28th 2009 in Qc City) Golden Boy was the promoter, Guzman is not fighting out of Canada and Guzman is a Golden Boy fighter. That means that there was absolutely not local interests for him to win... I have no idea if Golden Boy paid some judges to give some help to his fighter but if that's the case, Canada hasn't anything to do with it.
So, shut your mouth fat Shaw!

[MH300]

There is no way anyone can see round 10 as a close round. No way.