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  • -PANDA-
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    #11
    Originally posted by ALLBOXING247
    1. his stance resembles cotto IMO, both have good left hooks to the body

    2. the same "old" johnson who went on to KO green? cloud fought johnson toe to toe throwing big shots, ofcourse he was tired in the later rounds. pascal threw no where near the amount of punches cloud threw vs johnson and he was still gassed vs hopkins

    3. hopkins/dawson dont have the power to stop cloud in his tracks, pascal maybe, but def not bhop-dawson. you said "making them pay" but i clearly said 1 of the reasons cloud is the best is cause of his chin. those shots wont hurt him

    4. yea ur right pascal wouldnt be around for those body shots CAUSE HE FIGHTS IN 25 FOOT RINGS. gtfo, once fights in america he'll collapse under pressure cotto-margarito style. yeah he hasnt been stoppe at 175, but wat punchers has he faced? hopkins? LOL

    5. BARELY hurt? thats still hurt though right? if u think that punch would have hurt cloud i feel bad for you.

    just my 2 cents

    CLOUD FTW!!!!!!!!!!
    1. no it doesnt...amir khan showed he has a left hook to the body does he resemble cotto too?

    2. thats why panda feels ur assessments fail, ure comparing two convenient performances against two very different fighters and u cant see the difference. cloud always punches himself out, he isnt smart like the other top 5 175 pounders. panda was illustrating with his fight against johnson because both looked equally slow. johnson looked equally slow against green and was behind on the scorecards panda believes

    3. margarito used to have a great chin but every time his opponent hit him he'd stop...whether somebody can take the shots or not they simply dont like getting hit..ure underrating the sharpness of bhop/dawson's punches especially against an easy target like cloud

    4. diaconu was considered a pretty big puncher and he fought him twice, dawson is a good boxer puncher too, froch is a big puncher at 168 and should be equally effective 7 pounds north. u dont give a single argument on why pascal would fail except for him doing so once he fights in the US

    5. ure twisting my words like a little kid...pascal was off balance...he was not wobbly or in danger of going down, that was a perfect shot by bhop

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    • Evil Abed
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      #12
      Are you talking about the guy who struggle against a blown up MW?

      He looked horrible agianst Zuinga.

      He hasn't KO'ed a elite fighter.

      Dawson, Pascal and Hopkins beat him.

      He should fight Dicanue.

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        #13
        Originally posted by thephantom5
        Are you talking about the guy who struggle against a blown up MW?

        He looked horrible agianst Zuinga.

        He hasn't KO'ed a elite fighter.

        Dawson, Pascal and Hopkins beat him.

        He should fight Dicanue.
        Winning almost every round and dropping them twice is looking horrible?

        He hasnt KOed an elite fighter, that makes him bad?

        Who has Pascal KOed?

        you make no sense

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          #14
          Originally posted by ALLBOXING247
          Winning almost every round and dropping them twice is looking horrible?

          He hasnt KOed an elite fighter, that makes him bad?

          Who has Pascal KOed?

          you make no sense
          He got hurt and had to go 12 with a blown up MW.

          Yes, he looked bad.

          You said he can KO Pascal and Hopkins within 10.

          He can't KO elite fighters, He can't KO those guys.

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            #15
            Originally posted by thephantom5
            He got hurt and had to go 12 with a blown up MW.

            Yes, he looked bad.

            You said he can KO Pascal and Hopkins within 10.

            He can't KO elite fighters, He can't KO those guys.
            No one expected Zuniga to be that game, not many people would have took all those shots.

            I say he KOs pascal because hes so vurnerable. Hands down. Suspect chin. Weak body.

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              #16
              i still think dawson is the best

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                #17
                Hell nah... Hopkins is the best at 175, thats a fact and it's final. As far as I'm concerned Hopkins beat Pascal and is the light heavyweight king.... Cloud comes second.

                No way Cloud stops B-Hop, Cloud couldn't knock out Zuniga or Clinton Woods. Both of them are b-level fighters... Hopkins has good solid chin and is an elite fighter. Hopkins schools Cloud.

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                  #18
                  I'm a bias Brits so I'm gonna say Nathan Cleverly will be the best 175-pounds in 2 to 3 years time

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                    #19
                    My Rankings

                    1.Hopkins
                    2.Pascal
                    3.Dawson
                    4.Cloud
                    5.Shumenov
                    6.Campillp
                    7.Cleverly

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by thephantom5
                      My Rankings

                      1.Hopkins
                      2.Pascal
                      3.Dawson
                      4.Cloud
                      5.Shumenov
                      6.Campillp
                      7.Cleverly
                      I agree..

                      Where do you think Froch would fit in when he moves up to 175?

                      I think he's the most likely to move up in weight after the Super-6. Dirrell and Ward are still young, I can see them being at 168 for a while.

                      Where does Glen Johnson fit in if he were to return to 175?

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