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  • QQQQQQQ
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    Tavoris Cloud is the best at 175.

    For those of you who listen to my radio show, ive been saying Cloud is the best at 175 from day 1.

    Believe it or not, the only one who can compete with him is Dawson.

    Cloud would stop Hopkins and Pascal inside 10.

    Cloud reminds me of a Cotto, just much stronger.

    Here's why hes the best at 175.

    1.Hes going to be there for 12 rounds, no gassing out.

    2.He throws more punches in a round then Dawson/Hopkins/Pascal combined.

    3. He works the body better then any1 in the division, which is why he would stop Pascal. Jean hates the body.

    4. He's got strong legs and a great chin. Hopkins and Dawson, pretty light punchers, both hurt Pascal. Hopkins has no legs. He wasnt hurt in the 3rd, his legs just collapsed.

    Side Note- Your guarenteed an exciting fight

    Anyone agree with me?
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    Originally posted by ALLBOXING247
    For those of you who listen to my radio show, ive been saying Cloud is the best at 175 from day 1.

    Believe it or not, the only one who can compete with him is Dawson.

    Cloud would stop Hopkins and Pascal inside 10.

    Cloud reminds me of a Cotto, just much stronger.

    Here's why hes the best at 175.

    1.Hes going to be there for 12 rounds, no gassing out.

    2.He throws more punches in a round then Dawson/Hopkins/Pascal combined.

    3. He works the body better then any1 in the division, which is why he would stop Pascal. Jean hates the body.

    4. He's got strong legs and a great chin. Hopkins and Dawson, pretty light punchers, both hurt Pascal. Hopkins has no legs. He wasnt hurt in the 3rd, his legs just collapsed.

    Side Note- Your guarenteed an exciting fight

    Anyone agree with me?
    completely. i called in a few months ago from the 702 number talking about him after he beat johnson. i think dawson gives him the most problems but i like tavoris the best in the division right now.

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    • King Ju-Ju
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      #3
      i agree 100%. cloud would have knockedout both hopkins and pascal.

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        #4
        Originally posted by ChainskiBum
        completely. i called in a few months ago from the 702 number talking about him after he beat johnson. i think dawson gives him the most problems but i like tavoris the best in the division right now.
        Yeah man you should call in on monday!

        im having tavoris on the show again

        dawson gives him problems because hes good counter-punching, if he came foward like he did against pascal he wouldnt make it past the 8th

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          Originally posted by ALLBOXING247
          Yeah man you should call in on monday!

          im having tavoris on the show again

          dawson gives him problems because hes good counter-punching, if he came foward like he did against pascal he wouldnt make it past the 8th
          i would but im working swing right now dont get off til 10:30 sucks but let tavoris know he has fans that know hes the best right now.

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            Originally posted by ALLBOXING247
            For those of you who listen to my radio show, ive been saying Cloud is the best at 175 from day 1.

            Believe it or not, the only one who can compete with him is Dawson.

            Cloud would stop Hopkins and Pascal inside 10.

            Here's why hes the best at 175.

            Side Note- Your guarenteed an exciting fight

            Anyone agree with me?
            thats why 15 year olds should be getting excited for christmas rather than giving their assessment on a man's sport....dont worry panda isnt here to diss u...let me elaborate on this:
            Cloud reminds me of a Cotto, just much stronger.
            uhh what? cotto is technically sound and not an inside fighter like cloud...in no shape or form does cloud resemble cotto, not even in the way he applies pressure
            1.Hes going to be there for 12 rounds, no gassing out.
            he looked pretty gassed against an old johnson...notice how body shots take their toll on cloud from round 8 on...his punch output gradually diminishes
            2.He throws more punches in a round then Dawson/Hopkins/Pascal combined.
            valid point but how many of those will land on a defensively sound hopkins, a very mobile pascal or a punishing counter puncher like dawson. u dont take in the discouraging factor of making someone miss and making them pay
            3. He works the body better then any1 in the division, which is why he would stop Pascal. Jean hates the body.
            pascal has never been dropped let alone stopped...cloud needs to get inside to land his body punches and pascal would never be around for cloud's slow ass to land something
            4. He's got strong legs and a great chin. Hopkins and Dawson, pretty light punchers, both hurt Pascal. Hopkins has no legs. He wasnt hurt in the 3rd, his legs just collapsed.
            he's got a great chin for sure but boxers like hopkins and dawson dont go in for the kill very often, both are seasoned enough to keep cloud on the end of their jab. pascal was barely hurt by hopkins, he was circling him and got caught

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              I love Cloud. He's one of my favorites. Been rooting for him since the first time I saw him.

              But he's not beating Hopkins for these simple reasons:

              1). His power is overrated. He hasn't knocked out anyone of note and couldn't even stop Zuniga.

              2). He fights in spurts. He has stamina problems. He takes most of the rounds off and often entire rounds off, which plays into Bernard's favor (as shown with Pascal).

              3). He's a simple fighter, very easy to counter punch, which again plays into Bernard's favor.

              Bernard was knocked down twice by Pascal. The first was a shot to the back of the head, the second was a clean shot to his chin which he simply didn't see. I don't believe Cloud is the kind of guy that is going to set up shots that bernard is not going to see coming. Everything Cloud throws Hopkins is going to know exactly where they are coming from.

              Just my two cents.

              I do believe he beats Dawson though. He has the right style and toughness.

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                #8
                I like Cloud but I think Dawson will be the top light-heavyweight in 2years.

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                  #9
                  lmaooooooooooooo....



                  no.

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                    Originally posted by -PANDA-
                    thats why 15 year olds should be getting excited for christmas rather than giving their assessment on a man's sport....dont worry panda isnt here to diss u...let me elaborate on this:

                    uhh what? cotto is technically sound and not an inside fighter like cloud...in no shape or form does cloud resemble cotto, not even in the way he applies pressure
                    he looked pretty gassed against an old johnson...notice how body shots take their toll on cloud from round 8 on...his punch output gradually diminishes
                    valid point but how many of those will land on a defensively sound hopkins, a very mobile pascal or a punishing counter puncher like dawson. u dont take in the discouraging factor of making someone miss and making them pay
                    pascal has never been dropped let alone stopped...cloud needs to get inside to land his body punches and pascal would never be around for cloud's slow ass to land something
                    he's got a great chin for sure but boxers like hopkins and dawson dont go in for the kill very often, both are seasoned enough to keep cloud on the end of their jab. pascal was barely hurt by hopkins, he was circling him and got caught
                    1. his stance resembles cotto IMO, both have good left hooks to the body

                    2. the same "old" johnson who went on to KO green? cloud fought johnson toe to toe throwing big shots, ofcourse he was tired in the later rounds. pascal threw no where near the amount of punches cloud threw vs johnson and he was still gassed vs hopkins

                    3. hopkins/dawson dont have the power to stop cloud in his tracks, pascal maybe, but def not bhop-dawson. you said "making them pay" but i clearly said 1 of the reasons cloud is the best is cause of his chin. those shots wont hurt him

                    4. yea ur right pascal wouldnt be around for those body shots CAUSE HE FIGHTS IN 25 FOOT RINGS. gtfo, once fights in america he'll collapse under pressure cotto-margarito style. yeah he hasnt been stoppe at 175, but wat punchers has he faced? hopkins? LOL

                    5. BARELY hurt? thats still hurt though right? if u think that punch would have hurt cloud i feel bad for you.

                    just my 2 cents

                    CLOUD FTW!!!!!!!!!!

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