Originally posted by mushahadeen
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So does this make Joe Calzaghe's win over Hopkins look even better?
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Originally posted by Abstraction View PostYou dont get credit for facing a 43 year old Hopkins and 40 year old RJJ when their old
Pavlik and Pascal faced BHOP the first change they got.
Calzaghe had a "Fear of Flying" which is why he never went outside the UK,
Funny he overcame his "Fear" when RJJ and Hopkins were going to retire because they couldn't even get another fight.
BTW, many had Hopkins winning against Calzaghe anyway.
So it cant look "better", when it was not even good in the first place lol
By that logic, Kevin Mcbride > Tyson > Larry Holmes > Ali
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Originally posted by americanbot View Postwait wait wait.....wait a bloody eyed minute.
the basic matter of it all is that you CAN NOT try to piggie back off of hopkins greatness in favor of calzaghe. calzaghe is no where NEAR to hopkins. hopkins is still fighting while calzaghe is retired even till this day for goodness sakes. calzaghe goes neck & neck with a out of prime b hop (which i had him losing that fight anyway lol) & now calzaghe deserves credit because hop schooled pavlik & pascal? how should calzaghe get credit when calzaghe didn't even really beat a out of prime hopkins HIMSELF! calzaghe was the only man down & hurt in that bout. even through it all. hopkins LITERALLY begged calzaghe for a rematch but joe refused. thats because joe knew he lost their first fight & was made to look like a amateur. he wanted NO MORE. again. HOW IN THE HELL DOES CALZAGHE DESERVE ANY CREDIT FOR HOPKINS BEING AS GREAT AS HE IS?
if hopkins beats pascal & pavlik thats HOPKINS accomplishments not calzaghes. calzaghe was also schooled by hopkins and refused a rematch.
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Originally posted by JDezi4 View PostNot really taking into mind Calzaghe BARELY beat Hopkins, AND CONSIDERING a lot (if not most) people think Hopkins won. So as far as Calzaghe winning... no he doesn't deserve that much credit. As far as him not getting completely shut out... Sure he deserves credit, he had a lot of skill and ability to become one of the greatest. Too bad he quit before he did.
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anyone actually watched that fight clearly? the only possible way you can think calzaghe was winning if you pretend he was landing. no possible way calzaghe won 7 rounds in that fight. thus it was a robbery. if there were at least 7 close rounds in the fight then you would have some case but there weren't so you have none.
watch all 6 parts if you still think calzaghe "won"
where are the landed punches from calzaghe? they aren't edited out they just don't exist. plenty of hopkins punches though.
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Originally posted by daggum View Postanyone actually watched that fight clearly? the only possible way you can think calzaghe was winning if you pretend he was landing. no possible way calzaghe won 7 rounds in that fight. thus it was a robbery. if there were at least 7 close rounds in the fight then you would have some case but there weren't so you have none.
watch all 6 parts if you still think calzaghe "won"
where are the landed punches from calzaghe? they aren't edited out they just don't exist. plenty of hopkins punches though.
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