Comments Thread For: Khan To Become Super Champion? Ortiz/Maidana II?

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  • GRANDSLAM
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    #31
    None of the belts mean ****. All of the organisations are as bad as eachother, although if I was pushed I would say the WBC is the worst, just look at their Middleweight rankings.

    Martinez= Champ
    Chavez Jr.= Silver Champ
    Zbik= Interim Champ

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    • periks19
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      #32
      Originally posted by ikim322
      There's a HUGE difference between a guy with just power standing there getting hit waiting to sling one power shot to KO a guy and Maidana...who has power, heart, chin, and enough movement and determination to be forcing some action no matter what at least at some point in a fight. If it were as easy as you made it out to be, Khan, who is a better boxer than Ortiz (close to indisputable), would not have almost folded under the pressure and got taken out. The point with Maidana is that he'll take a bunch of shots because he knows that's what he has to do to get you to open up and get to your chin (knowing he can take shots too). Complete one dimensional brawlers do not have repeated successes like Maidana. I bet on Khan to beat Maidana, and I actually like Ortiz as a person/boxer whereas most don't. But I'm still able to respect Maidana. Not everyone has to be a slick boxer to attain respect. Give him some credit you douche.
      Like i said khan didn't have the power to put maidana down he did on a body shot but every human being, boxer goes down with a well place body shot look at ortiz he put maidana down 3 times and he was badly hurt in all 3 he put him down because he is a stronger puncher than khan. Khan although i think is a better skilled than ortiz not by much still don't have the power Like i said it would be easy for ortiz to beat maidana if he would stick to his game plan. Like I said look at the first fight and see how easy ortiz was beating maidana dropping him 3 times. Look at how easy khan was beating maidana both were doing what they do best. Why did it fail for ortiz because he taught he had it in the bag and brawl with maidana and he fought maidanas fight there because at that point when maidana was hurt it was do or die for him and he got that one punch he was looking for had ortiz move around boxed him cautiously he would of tko him or the corner would of thrown in the towel in the later rounds look at the fight before the first kd of ortiz and see how much punishment maidana was taken

      Now why did maidana had success with khan in the later rounds?? because khan couldn't put him down on the canvas anymore his power punches were effective to the point of shaking maidana but not to stop him on his tracks.
      What khan did to maidana ortiz could do it again easily heck he did it on the first fight like i said the question is will ortiz fight SMART and if he will puss out after he gets hit. If he boxes smart and shows some heart he will beat maidana easily if he brawls and not stick to his game plan then the same outcome will happen.

      Now khan showed another one of maidana's weakness the body. I am still questioning why the **** did khan abonded the body attack when maidana was still recovering on the second round. Anyways that is another thing ortiz can focus on the body.

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      • periks19
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        #33
        Originally posted by talz
        Is that why maidana has won many amatuer tournaments in argentina and got to the semi-finals in a world finals amatuer tournament? Maidana has a good jab, great closing down abilities, good uppercut, great heart, granite chin and not to mention he has knockout power in both hands. He is far from a one dimensional slugger. He would annhilate ortiz again and make him quit. Maidana will become a champion one day, he is a great fighter.
        lol you just answered your question in Argentina maidana will make ortiz quit like a ***** again if ortiz brawls with him and fights maidanas fight. **** it was said maidana would ko khan if he landed that one punch other than that khan would of boxed him easily guess what khan outboxed hima and maidana got that punch he rocked him but couldn't finish him.

        For you not to see how easily ortiz and khan outboxed him and showed maidanas weak boxing skills shows that you are blind. Ortiz vs maidana 2 would be good for both boxers. For ortiz to show he has heart and erase that bad memory and maidana to show that the first fight wasn't a fluke. After this one the winner would move on to better things.

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        • LeadUppercut
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          #34
          Originally posted by SluggerFan
          I will say that Ortiz vs Maidana II will not end any differently than the first one, except Maidana probably won't go down three times. I see nothing in Ortiz that makes me think he could go in against Maidana and not get thrashed again. If GBP wants to continue to make money off Ortiz, they should keep him away from any punchers...
          Before Peterson I would have disagreed with you for three reasons.....

          Now I'm not so sure.

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          • LeadUppercut
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            #35
            Originally posted by antrob
            The IBO is a joke. They hand out their "titles" to journeyman level fighters. Their Middleweight champion is Peter Manfredo, their Welterweight champion is Lovemore Ndou. The list goes on. The only two champions they have that are right are Wladimir Klitschko and Jean Pascal. I would say that the WBA has passed the IBO as the worst orginzation but I have never considered the IBO as legitimate anyways.
            All of the sanctioning bodies are a joke. None of them are definitive because none of them consistantly enforce mandatories and recognise the other champions.

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            • project xxx1
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              #36
              Originally posted by Hitman932
              The WBA is the worst organization and they have all the ****tiest champions.
              still crying over your lost 500 bucks ****

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              • LeadUppercut
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                #37
                Originally posted by GRANDSLAM
                None of the belts mean ****. All of the organisations are as bad as eachother, although if I was pushed I would say the WBC is the worst, just look at their Middleweight rankings.

                Martinez= Champ
                Chavez Jr.= Silver Champ
                Zbik= Interim Champ
                The point is, NONE of them are definitive.

                You can pull every single one of the sanctioning bodies to bits.

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                • Kris Silver
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                  #38
                  A 2nd world title belt from the same belt provider. When there's already 5 other world title belt providers inc. Ring.

                  Absolute joke. Super Champion. Fuck's sake, turning the sport into something sounding like friggin Mario Kart on the Nintendo.
                  Last edited by Kris Silver; 12-18-2010, 04:54 PM.

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                  • antrob
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by LeadUppercut
                    All of the sanctioning bodies are a joke. None of them are definitive because none of them consistantly enforce mandatories and recognise the other champions.
                    I agree. That's why people shouldn't recognize the IBO, because they are no better. We already have enough "titles" out there.

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                    • Al C
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                      #40
                      As is if interim, intercontinental, america's and european champion versions of these belts weren't enough. Now they have "super" champion in addition to "world" champ. In 10 years' time everyone will be a champion of some kind. Oh, I forgot silver champs and emeritus champs. Crazy!

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