Answer Honestly - Do You Want To See Pac take OSDT?

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  • Vasyl’s dad
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    #21
    Originally posted by markfrombrookly
    He should. If he's clean it shouldn't be a problem. Mosley took steroids in the past and didn't have a problem with taking RANDOM drug testing. If Pac doesn't do roids he should take the testing then beat Mayweather and he can make Mayweather look ****** if that's the case.

    Floyd avoided random drug tests for 40 fights,

    so that means hes guilty right?

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    • Vasyl’s dad
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      #22
      Originally posted by apokalips
      Yeah why not? It shuts people up about steroid this, steroid that and means that the fight with Mayweather would happen...I just wanna see the fight and see no downside to better testing whatsoever. I don't care about any of the *****ing over why he shouldn't have to be tested...boxing needs better testing that is a fact and if this helps boxing as a sport progress why not do it?

      It may be a hassle or annoyance but who cares if the result of it is one of the biggest fights in history and possibly the advancement of standardised testing in the sport?

      Yet again, I honestly don't see any logical argument AGAINST better testing, no one says the testing is perfect but it is a damn sight better than the existing protocol
      Based on what?


      Nobody being caught under the current system?

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      • LoadedWraps
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        #23
        Originally posted by horge
        Kindly answer this honestly, as fans of BOXING.

        Whether or not it's in the context of a fight with Floyd Jr.,
        do you want to see boxer Manny Pacquiao undergo so-called
        "Olympic-style Drug Testing" (OSDT), and why?

        "Olympic-style", because it's not really 365/12/4/24/7 random:
        it would be just during the 60 days leading up to the fight, and
        then immediately after.

        Naturally, his opponent would undergo the same regimen, as
        administered by the local WADA assign or analogue (in the U.S.,
        this would be USADA).

        ------
        Note 1:
        (If Pacquiao's own personal attitude matters at all...)
        Keep in mind that the only pronouncements on the issue that
        we 100% surely know came out of Pacquiao's mouth (on video
        AND unfiltered by Koncz's or Arum's coaching or editing; AND
        unaffected by later insults and mudslinging from other parties)
        had him reluctantly willing --but willing nonetheless-- to give
        blood up to 2 days before the fight (per ABS-CBN news video
        interview, December 29, 2009, at the Wapakman premiere, at
        SM North Edsa). Also keep in mind however, that Pacquiao has
        misgivings about losing ANY blood so close to a fight.

        Note 2:
        (If fiscal risk considerations matter at all...)
        Keep in mind as well, that any invasive testing is going to be
        highly unlikely in the 14 days prior to the fight, although the
        testing agency may never admit to it for the sake of plausibly
        maintaining a premise of fully 'random' testing.
        You ask boxing fans to answer kindly yet your post forfeits any sort of kind response.
        WHO CARES IF HE DOES OR DOES NOT. Are you his family? lover?
        He is an athlete, athletes are subject to tests all the time, WHY IS THIS NOW A BIG ****ING DEAL.
        loss of blood so close to a fight? cry me a ****ing river.
        its your idol manny pacquiao. surely the mighty pacquiao will overcome a few squirts of blood missing from his system.
        Shut the hell up with these constant bickerings over nonsense.
        Anyone else and this would not be such a big deal.
        "Do you want to see him" like a piece inside of you will die if he takes a blood test.
        Where are the relevant topics in this forum?
        Don't even let yourself get drawn into the idiotic thought pool that a drug test is going to affect his performance.
        Because it won't make a difference. And if it did, then its his weak sauce ass not the test's fault.
        A real Pac fan would see the test as just another way to prove he's clean. What makes you think he is above taking drug tests?
        Settle the deal, and setup the fight, or decline it and move on.
        too easy.

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        • Mecnunk
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          #24
          if it is implemented for all sanctioned fights (i know its expensive to do) then yes and NO because if Manny is being singled out due to Mayweather comments.

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          • horge
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            #25
            Originally posted by LoadedWraps
            You ask boxing fans to answer kindly yet your post forfeits any sort of kind response.
            WHO CARES IF HE DOES OR DOES NOT. Are you his family? lover?
            He is an athlete, athletes are subject to tests all the time, WHY IS THIS NOW A BIG ****ING DEAL.
            loss of blood so close to a fight? cry me a ****ing river.
            its your idol manny pacquiao. surely the mighty pacquiao will overcome a few squirts of blood missing from his system.
            Shut the hell up with these constant bickerings over nonsense.
            Anyone else and this would not be such a big deal.
            "Do you want to see him" like a piece inside of you will die if he takes a blood test.
            Where are the relevant topics in this forum?
            Don't even let yourself get drawn into the idiotic thought pool that a drug test is going to affect his performance.
            Because it won't make a difference. And if it did, then its his weak sauce ass not the test's fault.
            A real Pac fan would see the test as just another way to prove he's clean. What makes you think he is above taking drug tests?
            Settle the deal, and setup the fight, or decline it and move on.
            too easy.

            [img]http://i528.***********.com/albums/dd321/34tmyl337/Misc/lol-he-mad.jpg[/img]

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              #26
              Originally posted by LoadedWraps
              You ask boxing fans to answer kindly yet your post forfeits any sort of kind response.
              WHO CARES IF HE DOES OR DOES NOT. Are you his family? lover?
              He is an athlete, athletes are subject to tests all the time, WHY IS THIS NOW A BIG ****ING DEAL.
              loss of blood so close to a fight? cry me a ****ing river.
              its your idol manny pacquiao. surely the mighty pacquiao will overcome a few squirts of blood missing from his system.
              Shut the hell up with these constant bickerings over nonsense.
              Anyone else and this would not be such a big deal.
              "Do you want to see him" like a piece inside of you will die if he takes a blood test.
              Where are the relevant topics in this forum?
              Don't even let yourself get drawn into the idiotic thought pool that a drug test is going to affect his performance.
              Because it won't make a difference. And if it did, then its his weak sauce ass not the test's fault.
              A real Pac fan would see the test as just another way to prove he's clean. What makes you think he is above taking drug tests?
              Settle the deal, and setup the fight, or decline it and move on.
              too easy.

              ^^^^

              i think this member should take an estrogen test

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              • AFighter4U
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                #27
                Originally posted by horge
                Kindly answer this honestly, as fans of BOXING.

                Whether or not it's in the context of a fight with Floyd Jr.,
                do you want to see boxer Manny Pacquiao undergo so-called
                "Olympic-style Drug Testing" (OSDT), and why?

                "Olympic-style", because it's not really 365/12/4/24/7 random:
                it would be just during the 60 days leading up to the fight, and
                then immediately after.

                Naturally, his opponent would undergo the same regimen, as
                administered by the local WADA assign or analogue (in the U.S.,
                this would be USADA).

                ------
                Note 1:
                (If Pacquiao's own personal attitude matters at all...)
                Keep in mind that the only pronouncements on the issue that
                we 100% surely know came out of Pacquiao's mouth (on video
                AND unfiltered by Koncz's or Arum's coaching or editing; AND
                unaffected by later insults and mudslinging from other parties)
                had him reluctantly willing --but willing nonetheless-- to give
                blood up to 2 days before the fight (per ABS-CBN news video
                interview, December 29, 2009, at the Wapakman premiere, at
                SM North Edsa). Also keep in mind however, that Pacquiao has
                misgivings about losing ANY blood so close to a fight.

                Note 2:
                (If fiscal risk considerations matter at all...)
                Keep in mind as well, that any invasive testing is going to be
                highly unlikely in the 14 days prior to the fight, although the
                testing agency may never admit to it for the sake of plausibly
                maintaining a premise of fully 'random' testing.
                yes he should.

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                • Rolaz
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                  #28
                  The Professional Boxing has its own Rules and Regulation; If you want to adopt "Olympic-style Drug Testing" (OSDT)" then by all means make petition to implement this measure that will cover ALL Professional Boxers and not limited to Pacman only!

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                  • Squizz
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by markfrombrookly
                    He should. If he's clean it shouldn't be a problem. Mosley took steroids in the past and didn't have a problem with taking RANDOM drug testing. If Pac doesn't do roids he should take the testing then beat Mayweather and he can make Mayweather look ****** if that's the case.
                    EXACTLY! And I'll go one step further: He should take the tests in his next fight! That way, he REALLY puts Floyd in a corner, and gives Floyd no choice but to either man-up, or FOREVER be labeled a coward. (And I'm a huge Floyd suporter!)

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                    • Monte Fisto
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                      #30
                      I support PAC if he chooses to go back to square one and decides to not even do 'em at all. This OST reeks of b.s., sure, there's nothing wrong with the idea of OST, but it revolves around lies and manipulative tactics to get someone to do it.

                      I would also support PAC if he chooses to do a full random OST.

                      But, again, how can you blame PAC for saying no to someone who dragged his name through the mud. It's not like the Coward Camp asked nicely to do the random OST. Actually, he was never asked. First, he was accused, and the obvious response was no, that he's not using, then the obvious rebuttal from Coward and Co. is for PAC to prove it. Prove what ? Prove that an unfounded accusation is untrue, lmao GTFOH

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