Do you guys REALLY believe Pac cant...

[McFearless]

im sure he can beat some fighters in their primes. as of late, he hasn't done that, and it's irritating how he or his handlers like to drain his recent opponents.

I know, that catchweight BS is ridiculous.. im not the biggest pac fan but I can admit when someone is good..
And yeah if you don't weigh the division, you don't get the title.
Ok, who, right now is beating pac? Floyd can and brrto can give him problems but who else

[Rabbit ♠]

I see Tito getting dropped as well but I also think that would have been the worse that would of happen to Pac. He would get up and be a killer. And, Tito was a dynamic puncher with both hands not just the left.

I think Tito stops and I say that without hesitation Pac does get hit.

True and not only is Pac hittable, I kinda have the feeling he'd let Tito tee off on him in the 4th or 5th.. And I don't think he'd do his normal throw his hands up afterwards if that happened

[IMDAZED]

Yeah man. I wish Tito vs Shane would have happened. Not that Pac fights like Shane, but just to see how Tito would have handled that kind of handspeed and because Shane's d is also lacking. Might have given me better insight.

That and Bhop vs RJJ are the two fights I'm still pissed never happened

I think I definitely wanted to see B-Hop/RJ than Tito-Shane. Shane was only a few fights removed from 135 and I thought 154 might've been too much for him. Plus, you're right about his D. I think the ref would've saved him in that bout. Tito at 154 was an animal.

I thought Hopkins would've given Jones a lot of trouble but I can't ever see him beating a pre-33yr old Roy. Jones had a mental hold over him which I thought was apparent when the old men fought this past Spring. The only difference is that this Jones has no confidence while the prime version was brimming with it.

[IMDAZED]

True and not only is Pac hittable, I kinda have the feeling he'd let Tito tee off on him in the 4th or 5th.. And I don't think he'd do his normal throw his hands up afterwards if that happened

[megadeth]

Maybe. Would be interesting to see who is faster. I'd make Shane the favorite but I wouldn't be surprised if Manny out-quicked him.

I don't think there is ANY questions who is faster. Prime Shay in my opinion is easily faster than Pac, and the lighter the weight, the bigger the gap becomes. Shane VERY fast at lightweight. In fact, if u watch ODH vs. Mosley I, I think a great argument could be made for Oscar being just as fast as Pac.

[megadeth]

Pacquiao could take Oscar in his prime. Maybe Shane too.

I think both of them span Pac. Oscar was a very good technical boxer in his prime. His jab along would've given Pac fits. Shane was too fast and too strong. Pac body would take a bad beating with Shane.

[McFearless]

When have you seen him fight a prime fast/just as fast boxer? I'll wait......
Seems like the fans are comming around to seeing this for what it is homie... Bootleg matchups

I understand what you're saying. But the question isn't about speed, what im trying to say is which prime fighter right now beats him? I know you hate pac but don't let that get in the way of answering a question, if he's such a fraud who bests him?

[IMDAZED]

I think both of them span Pac. Oscar was a very good technical boxer in his prime. His jab along would've given Pac fits. Shane was too fast and too strong. Pac body would take a bad beating with Shane.

Oscar was extremely one-handed in his prime. And his defense was mehh.

[megadeth]

I see Tito getting dropped as well but I also think that would have been the worse that would of happen to Pac. He would get up and be a killer. And, Tito was a dynamic puncher with both hands not just the left.

I think Tito stops and I say that without hesitation Pac does get hit.

This! ^^^^^

Tito was an absolute beast, especially when after he got knocked down. I remember watching him and not really liking him at first. Then, watched him more and more, i began to love him. It was a kind of a treat to watch him get knocked down and realize it was a flash, cuz u knew what was coming soon after that!

[megadeth]

Oscar was extremely one-handed in his prime. And his defense was mehh.

True. He was left hook happy, but that hook did him a lot of good. He kept winning against some really good fighters(even though he really lost to Ike Qurartey). You don't see the ODLH that fought Ike or Shane beating Oscar? Seriously?

Almost all of Manny's Dfence is his offense.