Re-watched fight: New Analysis on Ortiz/Peterson

[Pullcounter]

He was bigger and stronger, but looked to be a lot slower thanks to what seems to be him being weight drained. And even if that wasn't the case, round 3, 4, 5, and 10 was how he should have been fighting, but Peterson's holding looked to be getting annoying to him, and he tried to avoid it by staying on the outside and trying to make Peterson come to him. But becuz he was (I think he was anyway) weight drained, he was a lot slower and left himself open to be countered.

ortiz was not slower nor weight drained. utter bull*****.

ortiz's natural inclination is to run even when the other guy has no chance of hurting him.

[Pullcounter]

Ortiz is very young at 23 taking on guys like Maidana and Peterson who are among the best at 140 and would give any one a tough fight.

sure, but given his advantages he should be beating peterson by a decent margin.

imagine if bradley had ortiz's size, strength and punching power! he'd be a beast and a legitimate threat to wifebeater jr.

[SonOfCuba]

I had it 97 - 91 for Ortiz.

Wrose judging in year.

[JDezi4]

c'mon man you can't compare YOUR experiences with world class boxers. that's like fishing for perch and saying you know what it's like to catch marlins.

This fight, the Pacquiao/Margarito fight, Pacquiao/Cotto, Pacquiao/Clottey, Mayweather/De La Hoya, (and that's just to stay recent and mainstream) r examples that show that the guy that re-hydrated too a significantly bigger weight on fight night didn't end up truly being stronger than his opponent. And those r WORLD CLASS boxers. Water weight rarely if ever make a difference, and not in the way people think. Water weight is more likely to slow u down and leave u more vulnerable to the body than to increase ur strength and power.

[tito_bandito]

What Ortiz is missing is inspiration...when he says crap like, "My goal is not to impress my fans I don't care what ppl say about me" makes me think that he lost his soul from boxing...it's true that you shouldn't care what ppl say about you, but you should consider what ppl think about you cuz that defines your legacy not only as a fighter but as a person as well...I think Ortiz can get inspired if he joins Marquez and trains with Barestein in Mexico....let the kid go back to his Mexican roots and learn from a legend...he can still keep Garcia as assistant trainer...Garcia is pretty green as a trainer himself and can learn a lot from Barestein himself...Ortiz needs a camp outside California unless it's at the wildcard gym...even Khan travels far to train...Ortiz should do the same...say tootaloo to your surfing buddies and focus on the millions he can make and the respect he can get

[JDezi4]

ortiz was not slower nor weight drained. utter bull*****.

ortiz's natural inclination is to run even when the other guy has no chance of hurting him.

Disregarding the intangibles in boxing don't make them any less relevant. If u don't care to hear about them than why acknowledge them?

If that's Ortiz's natural inclination, than why is everyone saying that "Peterson made him retreat"? If that's just his M.O. than where is that coming from?

[Pullcounter]

This fight, the Pacquiao/Margarito fight, Pacquiao/Cotto, Pacquiao/Clottey, Mayweather/De La Hoya, (and that's just to stay recent and mainstream) r examples that show that the guy that re-hydrated too a significantly bigger weight on fight night didn't end up truly being stronger than his opponent. And those r WORLD CLASS boxers. Water weight rarely if ever make a difference, and not in the way people think. Water weight is more likely to slow u down and leave u more vulnerable to the body than to increase ur strength and power.

c'mon man, there are weight divisions for a reason.

[Pullcounter]

Disregarding the intangibles in boxing don't make them any less relevant. If u don't care to hear about them than why acknowledge them?

If that's Ortiz's natural inclination, than why is everyone saying that "Peterson made him retreat"? If that's just his M.O. than where is that coming from?

it's not an intangible. it's something you just made up to excuse ortiz's performance.

[JDezi4]

c'mon man, there are weight divisions for a reason.

Lol, duh... And?

[JDezi4]

it's not an intangible. it's something you just made up to excuse ortiz's performance.

Lol, hater. Always bein negative. Ignoring the intangibles.