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  • Kris Silver
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    #31
    What Khan did prove is that he's tougher and has a better chin than many thought.

    That in itself is very impressive.

    However what's worrying was his placement of more importance on that risking still getting knocked out and making it a closer fight than it needed to be.

    The most important thing above showing off or proving a point, is winning as best, clearly and cleverly as possible, he's shown he undervalues that which is a lack of ring intelligence and discipline.

    I'm also very concerned that his trainer whom is the best in the world told him not to throw many rights til the 2nd half of the fight, single jabs, stay out of trouble, was at times completely knowingly abandoned just to make a point about his chin.

    That's worrying because it shows he isn't taking instructions from his more ring intelligent trainer as he makes out, and isn't doing so during the fight either. I couldn't here much of Freddies comments but inside/outside he must have been screwing his tactic orders per training were simply being ignored by Khan for large periods of time.

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    • carlos slim
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      #32
      if you get past his early onslot khan makes hella mistakes....he throws alot of combos off balance n if he fought counterpuncher like jmm he would get killed like that.....also his only D is to run if you can cut the ring off..not maidana hes just not good all he did was follow khan around......at midrange khan has no D....

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      • bigcursedawg
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        #33
        Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
        Yeah, people can no longer say he has a glass chin.
        i think he still has a weak chin. if he had a chin he would have taken that big shot and kept fighting back but he was in survival mode. a example of a good chin is marquez in his last fight. he went down, got up and kept his composure and ended the round scoring with a great combination. im not saying i wasn't surpised i thought it was going to be lights out for khan. in my opinion if khan gets matched up with anyone with power and boxing skills he's going to be in a world of trouble.

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        • DET. IRONSIDE
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          #34
          Originally posted by S.G.
          Khan's ring IQ is just plain abysmal.
          As a Khan fan.

          Yeah he's not the smartest tool in the box, but all I see that he needs to work on is his footwork and his close quarters fighting technique.

          Man can't trade for *****...maybe he didn't with Maidana bcos of nerves I dunno but he took a lot of punishment to his chin in order to avoid the waste of time that is a Prescott rematch.

          Also to praraphrase La motta:

          "Ya ain't got me down, Mai!"
          Last edited by DET. IRONSIDE; 12-12-2010, 12:36 PM.

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          • Kris Silver
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            #35
            Originally posted by bigcursedawg
            i think he still has a weak chin. if he had a chin he would have taken that big shot and kept fighting back but he was in survival mode. a example of a good chin is marquez in his last fight. he went down, got up and kept his composure and ended the round scoring with a great combination. im not saying i wasn't surpised i thought it was going to be lights out for khan. in my opinion if khan gets matched up with anyone with power and boxing skills he's going to be in a world of trouble.
            That's a little simplistic, Mayweather was in slight survival mode when Mosley landed a v powerful shot on his chin. He showed a good chin by remaining on his feet and surviving a seriously hard shot which would have KO'd others, and still have you dizzy.

            If your saying others fought back more, than those shots like weren't quite as hard or well placed to the same degree. JMM isn't the greatest example of the point your trying to make either because he can become vulnerable when hurt and usually goes down.

            In terms of the Floyd and Khan survival mode, were talking about standing up to flush shots from probably the hardest hitters in they're division. Just remaining on feet, with it, having the witts to battle through the bad spell and fighting back 20 seconds or so later, is a better than average chin at least.

            IMO it's a particularly good chin. Mosley is the only one to have KO'd Margarito and Maidana is definitely a hard hitting beast.
            Last edited by Kris Silver; 12-12-2010, 12:38 PM.

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            • ADP02
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              #36
              He needs to improve on his defense. He had problems when Maidana had him on the ropes. He needs to work on defending against that uppercut because Maidana was connecting with that all night long.

              I was hoping to hear Larry Merchant ask Khan why he stopped hitting Maidana with body shots after he nearly stopped Maidana in the first round ..... I guess Larry had a very important engagement to attend as he only asked 1 question ..... Really weird!

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                #37
                Originally posted by bigcursedawg
                i think he still has a weak chin. if he had a chin he would have taken that big shot and kept fighting back but he was in survival mode. a example of a good chin is marquez in his last fight. he went down, got up and kept his composure and ended the round scoring with a great combination. im not saying i wasn't surpised i thought it was going to be lights out for khan. in my opinion if khan gets matched up with anyone with power and boxing skills he's going to be in a world of trouble.
                a good chin is not getting knocked the **** out

                what you see from marquez and floyd is experience from being hurt, they know how to handle the situation and keep their opponent off of them properly via firing back, unlike what khan was amatuerishly doing by simply running and at times just standing there with a high guard and letting maidana tee off

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                • wazaa.
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                  #38
                  I agree. Amir made it hard for himself. He even threw straight right hands without throwing a jab first, .

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                  • Danny Gunz
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                    #39
                    I still think Khan kills everyone in JWW.

                    Maidana gave a much better fight then I expected. Im not upset at all though cause it was a great fight.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by wazaa.
                      I agree. Amir made it hard for himself. He even threw straight right hands without throwing a jab first, .
                      What was even stranger was that he threw some when he saw Maidana winding up a huge right.

                      I guess it paid off as he still came through, but what a big and unnecessary risk in such an important fight.

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