Is Roach the most overrated trainer of all time?

[Bastian Loc]

What has he done outside of keeping Pac away from guys who can box?


Good matchmaker? Yes.


Great trainer??

Lol... before Pac he was known for training Tyson and Toney late in their career after they already learned how to fight.


Pole to cumm.

[bcfc]

27 world champoions cant be wrong though....can they?

[Bastian Loc]

27 world champoions cant be wrong though....can they?

How many of those did he develop from the ground up?

[120]

he's made an illusion based on match-making and restrictions

[bcfc]

harldey any trainer build a fighter from the ground up these days, if you think about it,

[Bastian Loc]

harldey any trainer build a fighter from the ground up these days, if you think about it,

Exactly so Roach gets a lot of credit for doing nothing but working with Manny and keeping him away from boxers while asking for catchweights to drain his opponents.

[CarlosG815]

Roach gets his fighters in phenomenal shape for fight night.

He is as good as everybody perceives him to be.

He is as good as any great trainer throughout history.

[jrosales13]

What about Buddy McGirt as a trainer?

[puga]

he's the best in the game right now.....he desreves to be overrated....

[DET. IRONSIDE]

Kinda over-rated but first thing. He does not pick the fights. He is not the one shielding Pac. Arum shields Pac. Roach will talk about fighting anyone and him and Ariza do the business.

He's no Angelo Dundee, sure.

However, he certainly rivals Manny Steward.