Comments Thread For: Arum: Pacquiao vs Martinez at 147-Pounds is Ridiculous

[hitking]

Damn, this was kinda shocker. Even Arum knows how ****** most of the **** Roach says is.

[Sugar Q]

Ignorant ass *******s take note because this is exactly why PBF/Pac isn't gonna happen. There's clearly a problem with communication between Top Prank, Roach and Koncz. All their mouths run in different directions. They love using PBF's name to promote their BS. Cotto will never fight Martinez unless Bob is just throwing him to the dogs because as much as I like Cotto he would get crucified by Martinez. They just use Sergio's name in the press will they know full well it will be Cotto/Margarito 2.

[treason1]

Arum said DiBella misplayed his negotiating hand. What is he doing calling the media when negotiations were ongoing?

lmao @ the irony

[titan_1987]

"Bob Arum Is Ruining Boxing; Boycott Top Rank"


2010 - Manny Pacquiao v Antonio Margarito

2010 - Kelly Pavlik v Julio Chavez Jr. (Fight was cancelled due to Pavlik's unfortunate addiction to alcohol, for which he is currently in treatment)

2010 - Miguel Cotto v Yuri Foreman

2009 - Miguel Cotto v Manny Pacquiao

2009 - Miguel Cotto v Joshua Clottey

2008 - Miguel Cotto v Antonio Margarito

2008 - Manny Pacquiao v Joshua Clottey

2008 - Miguel Cotto v Alfonso Gomez

2008 - Manny Pacquiao v David Diaz

1999 - Arum previously denies, but later admits (under oath) during a Federal racketeering trial that he bribed the International Boxing Federation President by paying him $100,000 in order to get the IBF to sanction a George Foreman fight.

1995 - Arum is penalized $125,000 by the Nevada State Athletic Commission for a bribe to get one of his fighters a higher ranking

** It must be noted that the other promoters identified in the Federal sting were New Jersey based promoter Dino Duva, who admitted paying a $25,000 bribe, promoter Cedric Kushner admitted paying $100,000 in bribes and Promoter Don King who was on video tape "regularly" paying for rankings for his fighters.

As the former Harvard Law Student and Federal prosecutor would do in trying to make a case, I am trying to establish a pattern. The pattern is that Bob Arum has been and continues to keep his fighters fighting "in-house," as other promoters call him, "In-House Bob." Quite fitting I believe. The other is to establish the corrupt nature of the promoter, specifically for this article, Bob Arum.
Bob Arum takes 26% of Manny's and other fighters' purse and as long as Manny and other Top Rank fighters continue to fight Top Rank fighters, Bob will continue to take in upwards up 52% of the total fight purse.
While this may sound like good business to some of you, the fact that there are very good candidates in other promotional companies that would give Manny Pacquiao and other Top Rank belt holders a very good fight, and would actually display some lateral movement, probably scares old Bob.
I for one believe that Andre Berto should be the fighter who is next in line for Manny. (I obviously would like to see the fight that the rest of the world would like to see, but let's put that debate aside for now). However, after watching Berto's last performance, I'm sure Bob does not want to take that chance. This is the same reason that Bob recently turned down $5 million for a Sergio Martinez v Miguel Cotto match. Bob knows that Miguel would lose his WBA belt and would rather match him up with another Top Rank fighter so as to pad his pockets more and keep a belt-holder in the stable, regardless of the outcome. It's a win-win for Bob, but nothing but a losing scenario for fight fans. And now with Shane Mosley all but signed to Top Rank, maybe just for a Pacquiao fight, Manny will surely fight another Top Rank fighter.
The below is a recent quote from Bob regarding the backlash from fans and bloggers regarding a match-up between Manny Pacquiao and Shane Mosley...

"I don't care. I don't care what the so-called boxing fans and bloggers have to say. I really don't."

You don't care? You don't care about the people that spend their hard-earned money, especially in these historically bad economic times? Who do you think pays to watch your fights?

The below quote is Bob's take on HBO and Showtime putting together fights on their own. (only because Arum proposed fights that neither company wanted to put up money for, I'm guessing they were all Top Rank fighters if I follow history)

"Instead of working with promoters, like they have done in the past, they have become promoters themselves. They make the fights just like promoters and pay fighters", Arum said. "It's their money and they can do what they want, but Don King doesn't have to go along with it and neither do I. King and I can get along without HBO or Showtime."

To which I say good luck you selfish prick.

Last but not least is my favorite Bob Arum quote...

"I was lying yesterday. Today I am telling the truth."

Bob Arum, YOU are what is ruining this sport. The prevention of the best fighters fighting the best opposition will continue to hinder the sport and prevent it from reaching it's potential as it has previously in decades past.
You are, and have been ruining the sport I love and kept me out of trouble as a youth. I truly believe that if it was not for the sport of boxing and my local PAL, I would not have graduated college with two degrees, much less graduated from High School. This is why I am so boisterous about this topic, because I see the problem with the sport that helped me and so many others through adolescence in **** neighborhoods, yet nothing seems to be done about it. So I am calling for a boycott of Top Rank Promotions. If we cannot have a single commission in charge, then we must weed out what is wrong with the sport and start with the promoters who refuse to "not care" what the people who pay them want.
The fighter is the only one on the ring taking the beating. There is no pension, no medical insurance and no one to give any legal advise. In fact, some promoters actually prohibit fighters from seeking outside, independent legal opinions. So again, if we cannot have a single commission, then we must weed out the corrupt promoter and start at the "Top."
Boycott Top Rank.

I didn't even bother to read, man.

You're essays too long.

[tlarry]

Don't Get Pacquiao Ruined!

Look, Pacquiao is the "payday". It's not Mayweather since he doesn't gave the balls to fight anyone washed up or smaller than him. Manny is the payday. Whether you like Arum or not, he's right in that if you keep trying to sucker Manny in to fight these larger fighters at these so-called "catch weights", you're going to get Manny killed at some point. Case in point, when they move Shane Mosley in to fight Vernon Forrest and Winky Wright. On fight night, Forrest and Winky both weight close to 180 lbs and much much stronger than Mosley, hence the beatings Shane took. Same happened when they pitted Dela Hoya against Bernard Hopkins. B-hop weighed more than 20 lbs over Oscar, and stopped him with a hook to the body. Oscar later said, "I tried to get up, but I have never been hit that hard before". Same happened to Juan Manuel Marquez fighting Mayweather. There is PLENTY of talent for Manny to be challenged by from 140-147 lbs, than to go get a Middleweight dried out to 147/150, then hydrate back up to 175lbs by fight night. You'll ruin your guy that way. Marquez, Mosley, Khan, Bradley, Alexander, Maidana, Cotto, Morales; plenty of challenging wars for Manny to have at the right weight if he wants them. Mayweather doesn't count, cause he won't fight, and he'll be in jail shortly anyway.

[mellow_mood]

[Carpe Diem]

Arum to Roach: "Know your role, and shut the **** up."

[Buffalo]

Agree with most of what you say, but a quarter of manny's plus a quarter of another top rank fighter is not half. It's a quarter. 26% of manny's take is 13% percent of the total purse.

I'm new to this forum but I have said complained about "in house arum" for years. He will not co promote an event. What promoter in their right mind would rent his fighter out to Mr. Arum? Certainly not one who wants to keep that fighter.

[| THE KING |]

Most of the posts in here are by Pacquiao/Arum haters. .. ****in females..

[Pin Galarga]

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Was it ridiCULO is the fact that Arum is unable to negotiate with other promoters and that handicap makes him THE WORSE promoter today.