Best P4P fighters ( all-time ) each weight class

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How old is the Super middleweight division anyways?

I know it's not that old, I just want to point that out for the reason two overrated fighters (Jones, Calzaghe) are argued as best there

[Cafe]

He was a great LW.

But, I would put Duran, B. Leonard, Gans, Whitaker, Canzoneri, Williams all ahead of Ortiz at LW.

IMO anyways only Duran and B.Leonard has a case to be the greatest LW of all time...

Damn...Maybe Gans too.

Ortiz as great as he was doesn't. And, I know he is Puerto Rican and all but he just doesn't.

Your arguement is null, since Carlos Ortiz avenged all his losses and is 70- 7 losses 1 draw 1 no contest

[G Doggy Dog]

How old is the Super middleweight division anyways?

I know it's not that old, I just want to point that out for the reason two overrated fighters (Jones, Calzaghe) are argued as best there

everyone knows that 168 is fairly new.....its my opinion calzaghe was the best there....MY OPINION

[Barry Halls]

SuperFeatherweight: Floyd Mayweather Jr

[jrosales13]

Your arguement is null, since Carlos Ortiz avenged all his losses and is 70- 7 losses 1 draw 1 no contest

And, didn't Duran avenge his only defeated twice at LW?

So your argument is null and pointless.

IMO only Duran and B. Leonard has a case to being the GOAT at LW.

And, IMO Ortiz is not even top 5 at LW...JMO...But, after the top 3 in Duran, Leonard, and Gans then you start splitting hairs. Just in my list I don't have Ortiz in the top 5...

[Cafe]

And, didn't Duran avenge his only defeated twice at LW?

So your argument is null and pointless.

IMO only Duran and B. Leonard has a case to being the GOAT at LW.

And, IMO Ortiz is not even top 5 at LW...JMO...But, after the top 3 in Duran, Leonard, and Gans then you start splitting hairs. Just in my list I don't have Ortiz in the top 5...

going 70-7 losses no case for being top five, oh I see your point, Felix Trinidad is GOAT cause he can't get past a jab LOL

[jrosales13]

going 70-7 losses no case for being top five, oh I see your point, Felix Trinidad is GOAT cause he can't get past a jab LOL

Well considering that I said Unbiased that Ortiz, Benitez, and Gomez are arguably the GOAT from PR.

But, since I am "biased" Tito is the GOAT...Keyword there "biased" since Tito is my favorite fighter of all time? Did that go over your head or what?

There are just too many great fighters in LW, I don't even have Henry Armstrong in the top 5 at LW. To me that is how deep this division is. Not saying Armstrong and Ortiz are not great fighters cuz they're. ATG's....

And, what I said also that I guess also went over your head. Is that after Duran, Leonard, and Gans is splitting hairs to who follows...You could put Canzoneri, Whitaker, Williams, Armstrong, and Ortiz in any order at LW after those first 3 names. I personally don't have Ortiz in that top 5 though at LW.

So I never said Ortiz doesn't have a case for being a top 5 LW, I just said I don't see him having a case for being the GOAT at LW. But, me personally I don't put him in my top 5 LW but it is splitting hairs after the top 3.

[NChristo]

He was a great LW.

But, I would put Duran, B. Leonard, Gans, Whitaker, Canzoneri, Williams all ahead of Ortiz at LW.

IMO anyways only Duran and B.Leonard has a case to be the greatest LW of all time...

Ortiz as great as he was doesn't. And, I know he is Puerto Rican and all but he just doesn't.

I can't split Duran, Leonard or Gans for the #1 spot really.

[jrosales13]

I can't split Duran, Leonard or Gans for the #1 spot really.

I can see that, is really those top 3 and then after them is everybody else...

[Walt Liquor]

I am impressed.

I disagree with half of your list. But, I am surprised by some of the names you put up there. i wouldn't think you would know those names...But, good shit

c'mon man.........................