Top 5 most over rated fighters in the sport

[MaD RoBoT]

Do you hear the media comparing Berto to Hearns, do you hear the media comparing Floyd to SRR, nope, nice try. Are Hopkins and Berto even discussed by the media? How is me calling Pac over rated hating? I think Pac is a great fighter but he's not what people make him out to be. NSB is insignificant, you people take this site too seriously.

so i reckon that you're not serious with your own thread either?

[King Ju-Ju]

1). Manny Pacquiao-currently the most over rated athelete in all of sports imo.

2). Paul Williams-this guy needs to learn how to use his height and avoid punches.

3). Lucian Bute-I like his skills, but he really lost the first Andrade fight, who has he beat Edison Miranda?

4). Celestino Caballero-looked terrible in his last fight, against a guy who had no business beating him.

5). Nonito Donaire-I really like him and his skills, but what has he done since beating Darchiniyan? I hope he gets a fight with Juan Manuel Lopez.

Honorable Mention: I really like all these guys but their relatively unproven and or inexperienced Victor Ortiz, Yuriorkis Gamboa, Devon Alexander

caballero 4 sure. he just has a big mouth. dont know if i would say paul is overrated. maybe overhyped with all that most feared man in boxing crap. donaire is overrated by the ring having him at #4. bute is ight but he got ko by andrade in the 1st fight. idc if he knocked him out in the rematch.

[dde91]

Both guys are very good, but I think the media over hypes them. It's not their fault.

I guess anybody could be a 8 division champ in 8 different divisions right?

[-Spinal-]

I agree with Pacquiao and Caballero.

Bute is relatively unknown outside of hardcore boxing sites. Williams is rated where he's supposed to be. Donaire needs to step up and doesn't belong in the top 10 P4P list, but he should not be in a top 5 overrated list.

Dawson lost to Pascal, so since he's overrated for losing to Pascal, then that makes Pascal a bum?

[-Spinal-]

I guess anybody could be a 8 division champ in 8 different divisions right?

I would like to see that happen.

[dde91]

AS far as I am concerned he gets 0 credit or points for his last 6 fights. None of those fight puts him in a convo for ATG status.

Beating sub PAR opponents that are already damaged goods and weight drained does not increase your status. Hell it does not even take away from your status. But it does not improve your status in the sport.

Pacquaio is in a holding pattern. He has been in that pattern since the JMM fights (which he lost both times). ARUM and ROACH has pacquaio away from anyone that has the ability to consistently hit him back.

Seriously Pacquaio needs to put together a string of wins that includes A-level fighters in prime condition, proper weight and not coming of KO's or losses, then he will start to move up the ladder towards ATG status.

he must first do the following in no specific order:
1.TAKE THE DAMN TESTS (just to clear that up. I'm not accusing him)
2.Fight JMM and win for God sake (he has lost to this dude twice)
3.Fight PBF and WIN (on the first try or the second try just get a win)
4.Fight and knock off a young gun either Bradley, Alexander or Berto
5.No more catch weight fights with dudes that are damaged and weight
drained

If he does this I will start including him in ATG convos.

Cotto, Clottey, Margarito are top 5 Welterweights lol How are they not points. Win or Lose they were still Top Welterweights *maybe not Rito but he still is up there debating on how you see it* Hatton was the Lineal 140 Champ. LOL i just do not understand. Does he have to fight King King or Godzilla to get Respect.
Marquez ducked him after the first fight for 4 ****IN years if you check you the history. He Rather fight Chris John for less money then Fight a rematch with Pac. He Ducked him after Pac fought Cotto. He now says it was because he had surgery but WHY DIDN'T HE SAY THAT **** THEN. He then said he would fight Pac at 147 if it has to be like that. BUT WTF is the hold up then? Pac beat him the 1st match. Only a Marquez Nut hugger thinks Marquez won when he surely didn't. Pac Spanked that ass in the first round. And controlled the later rounds. The 2nd fight was a close fight with the KNOCKDOWN being the difference. You cannot give Marquez more then 6 rounds. if you do then I dont know. I mean i think Barrera got robbed from Marquez but nobody brings that **** up.

[ADP02]

Raheem whoops Morales and Pacquiao fightts a shot Morales instead of Raheem go figure?

These are the type of comments that make me laugh ... to make things funnier is that at the end of this comment he thinks he is so right that he needs to say the word "owned"

Explain yourself, or your a lame.

Here is my explanation:

1) Manny had just gone UP to 130lb from 125lb to fight EriK Morales.

2) Erik Morales won the first fight between them at 130lb

3) When they (Morales vs Pac) fought for the 2nd time Manny had only a 1-1 record at 130.

4) Manny wanted to revenge his loss by taking on Morales at 130lb.

5) Morales was winning the 2nd fight up to about the 6th round. Manny came back to win the fight.

6) Those were 2 excellent fights between them (Morales vs Pac).

7) So you think that Manny should have fought Raheem instead? First off, could you imagine what the Floyd haters like yourself would say if he did that? Does Marquez ring a bell? and with Marquez they fought twice and Manny didn't lose!!! Imagine not wanting to revenge Morales!!! You got some nerve bringing this up, buddy!

8) Again, I laugh that you thought Manny should not revenged the well-known Morales for lesser known, no money in it, Raheem.

9) The most obvious reason that Raheem didn't make sense is because Manny just went up to 130 from 125 and there were questions about 130 after the Morales loss. Yet you thought 135 made sense?

10) Raheem beat Morales at 135. Morales was not known for his 135 fights as he never won at 135. Actually it was his 1st fight at 135. So that was a factor as to why Morales lost.

11) Furthermore, Manny didn't move up to 135 until 2.5 years later from that 2nd fight with Morales.

12) More laughable is that Raheem lost his next fight after beating Morales and it was BEFORE the Morales vs Pac fight.

13) Once Manny made the move to 135, he faced a title holder at 135. Raheem was NOT a title holder.

14) While Manny went on to win the 135 title, at around the same time, Raheem went on to lose again.


So to mention Raheem is ridiculous in so many ways.

oh ya,

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[Sweet Jesus]

1. Bute
2. Segura
3. Froch
4. Pascal
5. Bradley

[Cash Cow]

Most overrated:

1. Antonio Margarito

2. Lucian Bute

3. Andre Berto

4. David Haye

5. Kelly Pavlik

[ronnie_N.]

just for the hell of it...

1. Manny Pacquiao (Arum's best project of all time ; still brutal and exciting to watch though)

2. Floyd Mayweather (his "0" doesn't mean **** ; dude just know how to sell ; better to watch national geographic than watching his fights)

3. Sergio Martinez (after drunk pavlik and that 1 punch? seriously?)

4. David Haye (should be in women's division)

5. Celestino Caballero (juanma told you so)

runner-up: Andre Ward (clinch baby clinch)