Comments Thread For: Ariza Rips Marquez: He's Talking Out of His Mouth and Ass

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Yeah at 147 where he knows JMM would be seriously disadvantaged... Hmmm I'm starting to notice a pattern here... Everything has to be on Manny's terms or else there is no fight and thats NOT the mark of a true Champion or the best P4P in the World... as great as Manny is (And he's the best in the business today), he makes himself look bad with all his demands... And these guys have to take them if they want the big money... He's good enough that he doesn't need all these added advantages...

-- He drained Cotto down to 145 when Cotto could BARELY still make 147 and one fight later fought at 154...

-- Clottey believe it or not was draining himself to make 147 just for the Pac Man sweetstakes... He's now talking of fighting at 160!

-- Oscar hadn't fought at 147 in like 10 years beford fighting Manny and he was so drained that he looked sick before the fight...

-- Tony Marg took his beatdown at 150 when there was a reason that he didn't make his comeback at 147, because he couldn't get down there anymore and is better suited at 154 and maybe even 160...

-- The last 2 fights with Morales was at 130 when El Terrible had outgrown the weight and now fights between 140-147

-- Fat Ricky Hatton had to come down like 40-lbs to make 140 again and fight Manny when he had been exclusively at 147 for a few years...

The only guy that Manny has fought on an even playing field in the last 3-4 years has been Marquez and look how close those fights have been... Now Marquez who wants and deserves a trilogy has to come up to 147 (Where's he only been once and look how that turned out) to fight when Manny is actually a natural at 140, IMO and that would be an adequate meeting place because its probably JMMs next and final stop before he retires in 2-3 years...

Good post.

" Hmmm I'm starting to notice a pattern here... Everything has to be on Manny's terms or else there is no fight and thats NOT the mark of a true Champion or the best P4P in the World... "

CORRECT !!

Funny that Manny's knowledgable boxing fans don't point that out They find it more convenient to place their head firmly up their arse and proclaim that Manny is the GOAT.

Your point is correct, but deflated. There is controversy over EVERY Pacquiao fight dating back to before Marquez II.

He is a hype-job, with a manufactured resume'.

TEAM PACQUIAO.....
Still piss-scared of Marquez, since 2004

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team pacquiao are really a bunch of ******. i used to big a big pacquiao fan until about a year ago. they'll give the cheater a guaranteed 3 million, hes getting rewarded for disgracing the sport. marquez deserves a big paday he been nothing but good for the sport and people don't give him credit. pacquiao would make another 20-30 million and giving marquez 5 is too much. please its a joke thats either greed or another excuse not to make the fight happen. i personally think its the latter. they want the fight to be at 147 and pac can barely make 147. now they want martinez to come down to 147. does anybody take that kind of **** serious. its nothing short of disgraceful. fight someone on an eved playing field stop being a bunch of ****** team pac. seriously its pathetic, man up.

Great point.

Team " padded " Pacquiao have no problem lining the pockets of a lowlife cheat, if it means matching Manny up against an in-house bum.

Top Rank are a joke, and so is " padded " Pacquiao.

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REAL TALK:
• lets not complain about clottey/margs getting a shot at pac, we all know those were in-house match-ups to line bob "dirty money" arum's pockets. so we cant go around saying, "well, they gave margs a fight, why cant they give jmm a fight???"... simple answer, IN-HOUSE.

WTF? I was with you until you said this..... "so we cant go around saying, "well, they gave margs a fight, why cant they give jmm a fight???"
WTF are you on? We fkn well can so say that, AND WE ARE !!
How the *** can you justify that rubbish?

• yes, jmm deserves the fight... but again, lets not forget jmm/katsidis was on HBO for free... not sure if they have numbers on that, but its clear that jmm is a great b-side opponent, but cant draw crowds by himself... canelo brings more fans.... although, they can totally promote the heck out of pac/jmm III.... i just wonder, floyd dominated BOTH shane & jmm... so whats the point for pac to fight floyd "left-overs"?? this just gives more fuel for these *****s. LOL

More blah, blah, bull****.....
it is just as correct for me to say that Marquez is not Floyd's leftovers, because he fought - AND BEAT - Manny, first.

Everybody wants Floyd to fight Marquez' leftovers

• ariza needs to stop, this dude gets a few minutes on 24/7 then all of a sudden his opinion matters??

Correct, he is a fkn idiot. And is most likely undermining this sport at the very lowest level.

I was with you, until you wandered off there for a sec ?

It's kind of like you actually understand whats going on, but wont actually come out and say that Manny Pacquiao has a manufactured resume'.

You got the first part, 2. And you may possibly have the other part, also 2. But you just cant seem to add up those two numbers and come up with 4.

Why is that? Are you seeing what you want to see perhaps?

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Wax...we shouldn't complain because Arum got paid? Isn't that why we SHOULD complain? Guess who's paying for that?

Yea, WTF was he on there?

" we can't complain "

WTF ?

We fkn well can complain about that dishonest bull****, and we are.

[CharliesRecords]

I miss those days when fighters used to challenge other fighters, now we have promoters, ceo, and even conditioning coaches talking trash to other fighter as if they were man enough to tell them to their faces or in the ring....**** boxing these pr*cks are ruining the sport!!!!

[ELPERRO]

what's so wrong about $5million. I would have thought that is about right. Margarito made $3.5 mil didn't he???

I thought he made 9 mil???

[John Barron]

the more i hear ariza and roach talk trash the more i want to see pacquiao get knocked out.

[ELPERRO]

nevermind........i was close...

"Margarito, who is guaranteed $3 million for his biggest pay check, could earn as much as $7 million to $8 million if the PPV sales hit 1.3 million or more, as expected."

[iloveboxing2]

You will see it Pac get KO but ....

...you just have to bet a lot of real money against Pac and your wish may come true..

the more i hear ariza and roach talk trash the more i want to see pacquiao get knocked out.

[Carpe Diem]

Who is Alex Ariza?