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The only thing you destroyed were the rules of logic.
Is Martinez a middleweight champ or not?
Did Pac fight Margarito at a 150 catchweight?
Can or will Martinez agree to weigh-in at 150?
Is it a ***** move to challenge someone who last fought at 146 lbs. (weigh-in) to fight you (a bigger man) at 154?
I know it's gonna be hard for you to follow simple logic since you're so blinded by your desire to finally see someone whup Pac's ass. It doesn't even matter to you that you're riding your hopes on a full-blown middleweight.
Dream on, dude.Comment
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****in *****s will do and say anything to get Pac to fight a middleweight since their boy doesn't have the balls to fight Pac himself.
You don't care about Pac's legacy. You don't care about what's fair. You don't care about what's good for boxing. All you care about is seeing Pac beaten or discredited. If that is what's keeping you awake at nights, be my guest. But don't insult our intelligence that you are driven by loftier goals.Comment
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Yes, he is. He is NOW a large JMW, who currently holds a MW title.
So what? Sergio will fight Manny at 154 - JMW - for his old title.
What sort of a champion, is too scared to fight somebody in his own division?
A P4P pu$$y, thats what kind of champion pacroid is.
Yes, he did. That coward Manny would not even fight a genuine JMW.
Instead he fought a slow, plodding, shop-worn, mediocre, welterweight, bum.
And of course, Manny "padded" Pacquiao" fought him at catch-weight.
NO !! And why the *** should he you dumb ****?
Only a Manny-fan would drag his standards around on the floor like that.
Clearly the lowest Martinez can go would be 154 - the JMW limit - and wow, what a coincidence, Manny happens to be a JMW champion.
Manny Pacquiao is a coward for ducking Sergio Martinez. If JMM can go up TWO DIVISIONS to WW, then surely Manny can defend his JMW title at 154.
What a b1tch Manny is, and what a b1tch you are for supporting that dribble.
YOU FKN WHINEY TWO-FACED **** !!
That coward Pacquiao wants the 40yo LW midget Marquez to go up two divisions to 147, and he will not fight him at catch-weight.
And yet that pu$$y is too scared to fight a real JMW?
You are a fkn arsewipe kid, and I hope that you and Arum get run over by the same bus. Dishonest unreasonable ****s like you have no worth in this world. You make me sick.Comment
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You fail, I can watch a few fights to see Pac get his ass handed to him if that's what I really wanted. You do know pac has lost before right? I know your a new fan and all but he has lost.
Ask yourself out loud so you comprehend this, Does Pac not hold Martinez's old JMW title? Its not anyone's fault HOW Pac got that belt. Its the fact that he holds the belt. Martinez is a career 154lber. He's no more a MW than Pac is JMW. But they both have fought AT JMW and they BOTH held the same title.. This is called boxing. Stop with the excuses you clown.
Funny how Pac's wanting to fight AT 147 when he himself didn't win the WW title AT 147. Let alone demanding a 40 year old who's last fight was at 154 and hasn't won a fight since January 2009. Or demanding that a 135 lber to fight AT 147. Hey didn't Cotto ask Pac to fight at 147? What happened there chief?
Don't be mad that Pac is exposed for picking and choosing certain fighters AT certain weight classes AT certain weights. Besides Arum said its not about putting the best in there with Pac. Its about what will sell more.
Catch up and get with the program chief... Your just a Pac hater.Comment
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Now that you agree with what I said about Floyd, the least I can do is answer your questions. Hope WESS can also agree ... lol!
How can Manny be ducking Martinez when Manny's highest fight was a limit of 150 not 154? Furthermore, Manny couldn't even make 150 nor 147. In fact Manny's highest actual weigh-in was about 145 and has come in as low as 142.
When Manny fought Margarito, they said it in training camp that it was harder than they thought and it would probably be better for Manny to go back down to 147. This was before Martinez called out Manny. They also said that fighting Margarito at 150 could be a stepping stone for other bigger fights BUT it will also depend on how Manny feels at 150 and then gauge if it's even possible to go up higher.
Either way, they had said, Manny's next fight will be at 147. So 154 would have been for later, if Manny thinks he can handle it.
Do you know how many times I heard you guys say this summer and fall, if Manny can't fight at 154 (ie. not 150) then he must fight at 147. So now, what's the problem?
Now, you may conclude that what I have just said is coming from a Manny fan but even Martinez himself has said that "Manny is too small". So is Martinez a Manny fan?
Instead of calling it a duck, can't you perhaps consider that maybe, just maybe, Manny would be going up too high and that he already surpassed his limits?
I hope that Manny and Roach can figure out a way to fight Martinez at 154 but if they can't then just go back a few months and remember the calls for Manny to stick with 147 (not 150).
As for Marquez, you are asking Manny to go up and fight at 154 and now you want him to go down to what? 140 to fight Marquez? Just asking.... Now, if people like you were saying this summer, "if Manny can't fight at the limit of 154 then he needs to fight at 147" then the same should be said for Marquez too. Right?
Now, everyone wants a fair fight. So the above statement is not to have Marquez fight at 147, as he did against Floyd but rather accept the fact that he just can't!
But we all know that Manny doesn't come in at 147, even when he fights the big boys.
Now for arguments sake, even if it was at 147, Manny would probably come in at 142-143. So how much lower do you think Marquez would come in at? 139-141? Is this what you are freaking out over?
I can't see them going for 140 as neither Marquez nor Manny have a title there. Unless, this would be a non-title bout.... but why would Manny want to do that?
Now on top of what I said above, the reason that they don't prefer Marquez was not because it will be a difficult fight. They believe that with Manny's improvements and how well Manny has managed to carry his speed and power in the higher divisions, Marquez would lose decisively. They are predicting this to be a lot easier fight than the previous two between them. While it's just my opinion, I think they are right and so do many other boxing fans.
Give it to Marquez, he managed to put the pressure on Manny and the fight almost did happen BUT now we hear that Marquez priced himself out of a fight. So that is the bigger problem and probably the only problem.
Personally, at this point in time, i agree that Marquez would be Manny's easiest fight compared to the other options mentioned.Last edited by ADP02; 12-11-2010, 06:59 PM.Comment
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Roach is being ridiculous lately.
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Manny Pacquiao is a coward.....
empiricix, you are a dishonest one-eyed little ***go7.
1.) Manny Pacquiao is a coward for claiming to be an 8-division champion, and yet being too scared to EVER fight an actual JMW oppenent.
2.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Mayweather back in December, either that or he is a steroid cheat. He didn't want none of Mayweather or the tests, thats for sure.
3.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Sergio Martinez. If JMM can go up two divisions to WW, then surely Manny can defend his JMW title at 154. What a b1tch Manny.
4.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for demanding a catch-weight for Cotto. There are two reasons to demand a catch-weight, either you are not good enough to compete with that fighter at his natural weight, which is fine..... or you are attempting to drain him to gain an unfair advantage, which is cowardly. Team Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, because Manny had already fought at 147.
5.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Shane Mosley - TWICE !!
6.) And Manny "padded" Pacquiao is also a dirty coward for refusing to fight Marquez unless the fight is held at 147.
Manny "padded" Pacquiao is a joke. Top Rank smoke and mirrors.
Team Pacquiao.....
Still piss-scared of Marquez, since 2004Comment
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