[BOOM!] Floyd Sr: Pacquiao faked being hurt in the 6th vs Margarito

[Slyboots]

I think Floyd Sr took too many hits to the head and too many hits of the crack pipe. It's really painful just to hear that guy talk.

[Slyboots]

And holy crap, Crillz. Lay off the roids.

[MindBat]

floyd sr logic is equivelant to all ***** logic just a lot of nonsense bull****. pacquiao pretended to be hurt so to fool the public that he isnt on peds. Thats the same outlandish conspiracy theory crap that you *****s use when debating about pac and peds. You guys have absolutely no evidence and start making **** up. Ridiculous.

The NSAC and CSAC must be conspiracy theorists too 'cause they make the fighters go through drug testing without one damn shred of evidence of anyone using PED's too.

Somebody needs to do away with drug testing altogether even though some well known boxers have been straight up cold busted using PED's or admitted to using PED's in the past. (Without random tests)

Testing is a waste of time, in'it?

[PAKYO]

And holy crap, Crillz. Lay off the roids.

It's really damn sad him wasting all his time typing all those paragraphs after paragraphs (almost a novel already) defending his love for the fraudulent floyd only to be shot with just one sentence.


Protecting his son my ass...

[pbftxrs316]

the man broke his ****ing ribs---he didn't fake the pain----floyd sr is bugging out---but in no way if floyd jr afrad of manny--that's ludakwis(mike tyson's way of sayin it-lol)

[empiricix]

so just because he can beat him easily makes it okay for for him to POSSIBLY get away with cheating? the testing is in place to make sure that all of the corrupt things that Boxers/Promoters/Trainers/Corner Men will never come out cleanly and reveal themselves, in fact look at the Margarito situation they'll deny it. Shane denied it until video evidence leaked of him admitting it in a court hearing, months later Shane dropped his suit against Conte after battling it for years, hmm I wonder why..

honestly there is good reason for concern when someone who comes along just like that and does something no one else ever did, people don't just do things like this everyday and people whom have accomplished less have been straight up found guilty of cheating, Pacquiao is not above that POSSIBILITY therefore testing is more than justified especially when Floyd will take the same tests, especially since Floyd has been wanting this fight with the testing for more than a year and he's more than willing to fight as long as both fighters are assured a clean fight





I answered your post withing the quote itself

First off, you craft your arguments well. However, you fail to realize that you are basing your arguments on faulty grounds.

The central issue here is Sr.'s fear that Pac uses a deadly weapon (PEDs) in his fights, which would pose a danger to his son. If there is a factual or rational foundation for that fear, then any argument that follows from that foundation will be logical as long as one employs the valid rules of discourse (as you have).

The problem with debates is that people often base their arguments on conflicting foundations, which is why no matter how well-crafted the positions taken are, there will never be a meeting of minds. A case in point are debates over religion versus science. One uses the Bible as the foundation of all their arguments, whereas the other relies on scientific fact. They can make their arguments as logical as possible, but they won't obtain concessions from the other party since they don't share the same foundation for the debate.

You take Senior's belief that Pac is using PED as biblical truth, whereas other people demand scientific proof. Thus, both sides will never get to a satisfactory resolution. That's when insults take over civil discourse.

But kudos to you for keeping it as civil as possible.

[Dempsey-Roll]

whoever is defending floyd sr is ****in pathetic.

he's just picking straws. just like the *****s here...

[dibzvincent143]

for me pac got hurt, but not really. if he wants not to get theres no way he'll get caught with that slow uppercut. he just want to bring on the excitement.

[straightleft]

There are signs of fear written all over in Mayweathers family action regarding about this matter. Although they won't admit directly, you can see it clearly. If you look at both fighters actions...

Floyd Mayweather action recently are...
Out of nowhere, he invented the 2 months OST
vacations
kept quite regarding the issue
denied the negotiation
put himself into legal troubles

Manny Pacquiao action recently are...
negotiated for 24 days cut off - denied
then changed to 14 days - denied
then changed to 7 days - denied & Floyd kept quite, no comments
now Pac said, they can test him even between round 1-6 but still Floyd quite as dead.

Now tell me. who is trying to make this fight happen?

[boxinghero]

A-Side Meth make you fake getting hurt