[BOOM!] Floyd Sr: Pacquiao faked being hurt in the 6th vs Margarito

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i can't believe *****s actually take what comes out of wifebeater Sr's mouth seriiously

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there u go proving your ignorance again, Floyd Sr is not afraid of Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Jr is not afraid of Manny Pacquiao, get it threw that fucking melon of yours. you be a piece of shit if you knew or if you felt someone was going to cheat against your son and you still let him fight, you'd be a low life piece of shit not to fear for his safety.

I have my Father in my life and if he even sees anyone look at me wrong he is already quick to jump and say/do something, that's the love of a Father to a son he ain't thinking from fear he's thinking with love because there is no way that Floyd Mayweather Jr is afraid in any form or fashion of Manny Pacquiao and if you can't understand that you're a fucking idiot and a waste of time to even debate with..

Why does Floyd Sr. fear for Jr.'s safety?
Because they believe Pacquiao is cheating?
Why do they believe Pacquiao is cheating?
Because he's knocking ****ers left and right?

TEAM PAC AGREED TO SEVEN DAYS AND THEY WERE STILL DENIED A FIGHT.

Let's imagine Team Pac says, "**** it! It's ONLY seven days. Let's agree ALL THE WAY to the fight."

Do you think Pacquiao won't be able to knock ****ers left and right?
Is it any less deadly knowing it's that same Pacquiao?

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wifebeater is shook that's all there is too it.

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stop being a fucking imbecile yo, Floyd Sr said that he fears for his sons life in a fight against Pacquiao because of the possibility that Pacquiao may be on something, he said he would fear for Floyd's life against ANYONE who he feels has an added unfair advantage. that is his FATHER, don't you get it? they are not friends yo they are Father/Son and Floyd Sr simply said in a fight with Manny or a fight with ANYONE else who may have an unfair advantage he would be scared for his sons life and rightfully so, I'll be damned before I let my kid take a fight against someone whom I feel is getting away with cheating

I would do the same but not because I think my son can't beat him man to man but because this is a hurt business and there should be no advantages, 1 punch can end your life let alone your career and Floyd Sr simply wont take a risk with his sons well being because in the end if Floyd ends up brain dead god forbid you wont lift your smallest finger to help him out you'll just talk some more shit

as for Manny faking it? well I can't honestly answer that as I still have yet to watch Pacquiao-Margarito

he never tested positive so he should just come out and say he is scared to fight Pacquiao then. Because he is to damn good. Spinks was scared to get in that ring with Tyson. But he still got his ass in there. Floyd needs to get his ass in the ring for the fans and the sport. He is a prizefighter and his job is to fight the best and Pacquiao is the best who never has tested Positive for any PED's in his life.
And by the Way Floyd sr. says Jr would beat Pacquiao easily but is scared he would get hurt lol . Doesn't even make sense. If he could beat him easily sign the damn contract and get out of vacation

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Sr. stated that Lil Floyd wouldn't fight Manny without the full testing. Therefore, if they are in the ring together, Manny would have submitted to the full testing Floyd wants. And Sr. is still terrified for his son's life, which is why he added the additional demand that Floyd gets to send spies over to observe Manny in training at any time. Of course, Sr. believes Floyd would beat Manny easy...

you're twisting up his words, what he said was that he would be afraid for his sons life if his son was to face anyone with an added weapon and that includes Manny Pacquiao or anyone else who MIGHT BE cheating in fights. in this day and age of athletes you just can't be too sure and Floyd is a professional, he's been in there with the greats of his time and he's seen them all up close and personal and he hasn't ever seen something like this, something like how Barry Bonds, Mark McGuire, Alex Rodriguez, Jason Giambi, Roger Clemens and Jose Canseco was putting folks to awe with the amount of home runs they were hitting only to find out in the end they were using enhancement drugs, they were good without it but not as good as they were with it

my whole thing is that there is more than enough reason to speculate as of late with high notable fighters testing positive for enhancement drugs like Shane Mosley, Roy Jones Jr, Evander Holyfield, James Toney, Mike Tyson and a few others and even lesser known names like Ali Funeka and others, it's to a point where damn near anyone can get away with it therefore justifying team Mayweathers speculation. you just have to remember 1 thing all Floyd Sr wants is for his son to have a clean and fair fight, it's in Manny's hands now..

I get what you are saying.. but the thing is it goes both ways. You are attacking one side while clearly ignoring another. This board is full of posters who differ in opinions from all fan bases.. things aren't going to change.

I see that the majority/experts/sports media mostly agree with one side.. and I agree.

I'm not ignoring anything, I'm in the middle on this actually, I been following talks of this fight since it was just a fantasy fight and nothing more. bit by bit, demand after demand, negotiation after negotiation with no bias to the fighters because I'll be the first to tell you that I'm a Manny Pacquiao supporter but I don't condone crappy decisions and he's been making quite a few lately. in fairness Floyd is too, his business though concerns his life outside the ring and as much as I may or may not agree with him I know that I don't have the real facts so I can't really comment too much on that

as for attacking others, I only attack those whom come across as pricks right away, those whom have slick things to say. take Jrosales for example (my bad for singling you out my dude), me and J Ro don't always agree but it's always respectful (well except for 1 or 2 of my drunk days lolz) but for the most part whether or not we agree or disagree doesn't alter the maturity level of our debates, he's respectful and I'm respectful back but when I make a post and someone quotes me saying some slick stuff ima return the blaze, you don't like it? well don't debate with me

takes one to know one.......

I'm not a prick to everyone that I disagree with, I'm a prick to you because you say dumb things too, simple as that

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wifebeater SR is so scared of pac, that it's affecting wifebeater JR's confidence in beating pac.

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he never tested positive so he should just come out and say he is scared to fight Pacquiao then. Because he is to damn good. Spinks was scared to get in that ring with Tyson. But he still got his ass in there. Floyd needs to get his ass in the ring for the fans and the sport. He is a prizefighter and his job is to fight the best and Pacquiao is the best who never has tested Positive for any PED's in his life.
And by the Way Floyd sr. says Jr would beat Pacquiao easily but is scared he would get hurt lol . Doesn't even make sense. If he could beat him easily sign the damn contract and get out of vacation

so just because he can beat him easily makes it okay for for him to POSSIBLY get away with cheating? the testing is in place to make sure that all of the corrupt things that Boxers/Promoters/Trainers/Corner Men will never come out cleanly and reveal themselves, in fact look at the Margarito situation they'll deny it. Shane denied it until video evidence leaked of him admitting it in a court hearing, months later Shane dropped his suit against Conte after battling it for years, hmm I wonder why..

honestly there is good reason for concern when someone who comes along just like that and does something no one else ever did, people don't just do things like this everyday and people whom have accomplished less have been straight up found guilty of cheating, Pacquiao is not above that POSSIBILITY therefore testing is more than justified especially when Floyd will take the same tests, especially since Floyd has been wanting this fight with the testing for more than a year and he's more than willing to fight as long as both fighters are assured a clean fight

Why does Floyd Sr. fear for Jr.'s safety?
Because he may be fighting an already strong opponent whom might have a secret weapon somewhere whether it be enhancement drugs or whatever. all Floyd wants is 1 demand which is testing and this is to assure BOTH fighters have a clean fight, give him that and he would fight Pacquiao 10 times in 1 day and beat him all 10 times

Because they believe Pacquiao is cheating?
Yes, they do believe he's cheating, all Manny has to do is prove to them he's not cheating and he will have his fight, simple as that

Why do they believe Pacquiao is cheating?
umm maybe because he's done something that literally NO ONE else has ever done and he did it under the guidance of a trainer whom twice in the past was wrapped in enhancement drug scandals before, his strength and conditioning coach admitted to the public that "Manny doesn't even know what he takes", so that can mean he doesn't even know he's dirty if he even is, that's a lot of if's but they can ALL be eliminated with the testing and everybody can have the big fight


Because he's knocking ****ers left and right?
It's not the fact THAT he's doing it but how easily he's doing it, how his power keeps going up as he moves in weight when it is a widely known fact even amongst any ATG you can name that as you go up in weight your power doesn't always follow you, you'd have to be a power puncher by nature and Manny is not that he is an accumulation puncher, he will bloody you all all up but if you stand your ground you'll take him 12. Cotto shattered his ear drum and Manny didn't even feel it. honestly Manny is an awesome fighter but there is cause for speculation



TEAM PAC AGREED TO SEVEN DAYS AND THEY WERE STILL DENIED A FIGHT.
this is because 7 days was not the offer, 7 days is like saying 30 days all over again, in fact saying 7 days is the equivalent of saying "no Floyd I don't want to take no testing but I don't want to flat out say it like that so I'll offer you something I know you wont accept" it's the very same thing because it's the same outcome there will be no fight without an assurance of ZERO cutoff


Let's imagine Team Pac says, "**** it! It's ONLY seven days. Let's agree ALL THE WAY to the fight."
Then we will have the fight we have all been waiting for, Floyd tried so damn hard last year and all Pacquiao did was counter claim and kept coming up with the deal breakers that eventually killed the fight twice


Do you think Pacquiao won't be able to knock ****ers left and right?
actually that's the thing he wants to know Manny is clean, if Manny beats Floyd after taking a test I'm SURE Floyd will be a great sport about it and give him his respect, he would acknowledge he was wrong and he would give him 110% respect


Is it any less deadly knowing it's that same Pacquiao?
not less deadly but less concerns being that at least even if Floyd lost he lost to another man not a man with a battery in his back, even if Manny KO'ed Floyd (which I HIGHLY doubt) I'm sure it would be more comforting for Floyd win, lose or draw to know his opponent is clean, I think it would be like that for anyone

I answered your post withing the quote itself

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I agree. While I leave room for the possibility that Pacquiao felt the punch more than his body language indicated at the time, I highly doubt he was that affected by margaresto's vaunted 'power'. More like Pacquiao was just throwing old cheato a bone by enticing him to think he accomplished something in the bout.

The only reason he might have felt one of those punches along the ropes is because margaresto used a huge arc with that left hand, but I do not remember him leaning into it or torquing his body to add something to it...it looked like a wide arm punch.

2 days after that fight, I asked a friend who was with Manny at that time his true condition... the answer was an emphatic " he is in bad shape".

I also noticed he was not in his usual jolly self in all interviews several days after the fight. Even mediamen in his country noticed this as well.

I have no doubt he got hurt in that fight. He even said to his corner he wont fight that way again (higher than 147). That fight conviced him that his weight climbing exploits is over at 147.

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stop being a fucking imbecile yo, Floyd Sr said that he fears for his sons life in a fight against Pacquiao because of the possibility that Pacquiao may be on something, he said he would fear for Floyd's life against ANYONE who he feels has an added unfair advantage. that is his FATHER, don't you get it? they are not friends yo they are Father/Son and Floyd Sr simply said in a fight with Manny or a fight with ANYONE else who may have an unfair advantage he would be scared for his sons life and rightfully so, I'll be damned before I let my kid take a fight against someone whom I feel is getting away with cheating

I would do the same but not because I think my son can't beat him man to man but because this is a hurt business and there should be no advantages, 1 punch can end your life let alone your career and Floyd Sr simply wont take a risk with his sons well being because in the end if Floyd ends up brain dead god forbid you wont lift your smallest finger to help him out you'll just talk some more shit

as for Manny faking it? well I can't honestly answer that as I still have yet to watch Pacquiao-Margarito

Oh dear god, your excuses and obvious manlove for floyd is really getting pathetic.
How can you say Floyd, Sr. is talking as a father here when it is a very WELL KNOWN FACT he used floyd the fraud as a bullet shield when he was still a kid!?!?

Seriously, are you people (this goes to all *****s) really that gullible or just plain ******?

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