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  • SluggerFan
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    #41
    Unfortunately, I don't like either one of these two people. ODLH may have been a very good fighter (not great but good) and did alot of good things for the sport however since becoming a promoter, he has turned very hypocrital an unethical. Trying to steer Manny Pacquaio away from Arum with a bag full of cash reeks of a Don King scumbag move. Then saying Pacquiao doesn't hit hard at all instead saying he couldn't see the punches coming is why he quit against him. Then later, agreeing with Floyd Sr saying that Pacquaio punches as hard as Vargas and Mosley (two fighters who used PEDs against ODLH) and there is something su****ious about Pacman's hard punching power. And Arum has always been a complete scumbag. I don't believe either of what these guys say anymore. It's all hogwash!

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    • flint
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      #42
      arum is a liar.they never agreed to anything unconditionally.until floyd;s charges came about.they know there's noway floyd can fight so they just started saying this and that.floyd gave them everything all they had to do is agree to the testing and pac did;nt want it.now he does but itd to late.

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      • Heru
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        #43
        What Arum wanted to say is "He doesn't understand greed!". Arum makes too much money with the in house fights, especially ones that sell over 1M.

        Mayweather had $10M guaranteed against Marquez, who had $4M guaranteed. Mayweather ended up making $30M for a fight that sold 1M, Marquez' pay might have been a flat fee, but it might've had a slight bump to $5-7M. That's $35-37M accounted for.

        Pacquiao had a $15M guarantee, Margarito $3M. Pacquiao ended up making in the range of $20-25M and Margarito $8M in a fight that sold 1.15M, which is an extra $4.5M over the 1M (1/2 of the 115K buys).

        Between $28-33M accounted for between Pacquiao and Margarito, but if Mayweather-JMM sold 115K less, how can the tally come out to $35-37M and Pacquiao-Margarito $28-33M? Guess who's collecting the missing/extra profit?

        De La Hoya doesn't understand greed!

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        • Walt Liquor
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          #44
          look at these people, are they aware that oscar was a top rank fighter? where do you think oscar learned all this from?????

          arum obviously knows more about promotions, but he's a lying greedy piece of crap that is ruining or hurting the careers/reps of many good fighters in this sport (see: donaire, nonito,/soto, humberto/pacquaio, manny).

          gbp has yet to prove that they can develop a fighter from the ground up the way top rank has done in the past.

          oscar always talks a lot but rarely gets anything done. gomez and the swede aren't really that impressive either. golden boy supposedly has these great ideas, but none have really worked so far except the fight night at the nokia.

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          • Walt Liquor
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            #45
            Originally posted by QUELOQUE
            What Arum wanted to say is "He doesn't understand greed!". Arum makes too much money with the in house fights, especially ones that sell over 1M.

            Mayweather had $10M guaranteed against Marquez, who had $4M guaranteed. Mayweather ended up making $30M for a fight that sold 1M, Marquez' pay might have been a flat fee, but it might've had a slight bump to $5-7M. That's $35-37M accounted for.

            Pacquiao had a $15M guarantee, Margarito $3M. Pacquiao ended up making in the range of $20-25M and Margarito $8M in a fight that sold 1.15M, which is an extra $4.5M over the 1M (1/2 of the 115K buys).

            Between $28-33M accounted for between Pacquiao and Margarito, but if Mayweather-JMM sold 115K less, how can the tally come out to $35-37M and Pacquiao-Margarito $28-33M? Guess who's collecting the missing/extra profit?

            De La Hoya doesn't understand greed!

            dela understands greed. top rank built him into the biggest ppv star in boxing. arum's just better at it

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              #46
              Originally posted by flint
              arum is a liar.they never agreed to anything unconditionally.until floyd;s charges came about.they know there's noway floyd can fight so they just started saying this and that.floyd gave them everything all they had to do is agree to the testing and pac did;nt want it.now he does but itd to late.
              facking silly........lol

              you are still a ******....

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              • sapo#1
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                #47
                comming from sombody who has never laced up a glove!!!!!

                oscar knows more about boxing that any other promoter!!! oscar knows boxing from a boxers point of view and from a promoters point of view!!!!

                oscar sayd when he started promoting that he thinks its wrong what promoters do to fighters and wants to chainge that!!!

                who would you tust if you were a boxer some one that has been in the ring???

                or some snake *** boy who has been convicted and fined for bribing boxing officials????

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                • switchsouthpaw
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
                  Top Rank's CEO Bob Arum was not amused by some of Oscar De La Hoya's recent comments that were posted on his personal Twitter account. De La Hoya, President of Golden Boy Promotions, made several public criticisms about Arum. The 79-year-old veteran promoter fired back when asked for his opinion about some of the comments.

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                  Arum is referring to the "business" of boxing, not the occupation of boxing. ODLH is/was a smart boxer and I was a fan, in terms of business, he hires "smart" guys to run his operation, because he himself is not a thinker. No offense nor am I meaning to sound elitist but a high school education vs that of a man who attended Harvard...who are you going to defer to?
                  Last edited by switchsouthpaw; 12-08-2010, 01:34 PM.

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                  • TintaBoricua
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                    #49
                    I remember once when Arum was putting together Cotto-Margarito stating: "This is what Top Rank is all about. Putting competitive matches against young, hungry, exciting fighters!"

                    I don't know if the last fights have matched up to that criteria.

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                    • apunchnotseen
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                      #50
                      Bob you piece of crap,you took boxing from the dark ages of constant network coverage and widespread attention to being a pay per view niche sideshow. Arum gives lawyers a bad name, so morally bankrupt the only reason he's still alive is Satan is not even sure they want him.

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