******* logic.....

[oc9979]

At 147, Floyd fought Zab who was at his best at 140lb (lost 5 times at 147 including to Baldomir, Clottey, Spinks and Cotto)
At 147, Floyd fought Hatton who was a career 140lb
At 147, Floyd fought Mitchel who was a career 140lb and lower
At 147, Floyd fought J.Marquez who was a career 135lb and lower


I say that to say this........


Maybe Floyd should continue the trend and fight someone who is very good at 126lb such as Juan Manuel Lopez or Gamboa BUT AT 147?


What do you think?

Judah called out Mayweather to go up in weight for his title.
http://www.saddo boxing.com/1563-zab-to-floyd-lets-meet-at-147.html (take the space out)

[Real King Kong]

So your saying you can't weigh under 200 for a HW fight?

Margarito has fought at JR. MW before and was beating Santos (most people had him winning) neither Mosley nor Pacquiao have fought at 160.

If your arguing that Margarito and Pacquiao doesn't DESERVE to be for the 154 title then I agree and you'd be right. If your arguing that you need to weight above the previous weight class then you'd be wrong.

When Henry Armstrong fought Barney Ross for the Welterweight title he came in at 133 pounds Ross came in at 142 Ross was the legitimate and ONLY world title holder at Welterweight but it shouldn't have been for the belt because Armstrong was light? In fact Armstrong weighed under the Lightweight limit for his next 8 defenses of the Welterweight belt while all but two of those came in over the limit up to the WW limit of 147. Against Lou Ambers both Armstrong and Ambers were under the WW limit, if Ambers had won should he not have got the belt?

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[oc9979]

mosley would have to be ranked #1 by one of the sanctioning bodies first.

they put Margarito #1

[ADP02]

Judah called out Mayweather to go up in weight for his title.
http://www.saddo boxing.com/1563-zab-to-floyd-lets-meet-at-147.html (take the space out)

I can handle what you said. That is, you agree with 3 of the 4 147lb fights I listed of Floyd.

Floyd must have been laughing though when Zab couldn't even beat Baldomir. In retrospect, Zab had problems at 147 as he lost 5 fights.


Anyhow the point was that the TS complains about Manny, who is fighting bigger men than he yet he somehow can't see what his hero Floyd has been doing at 147lb.

[cixthree]

I can handle what you said. That is, you agree with 3 of the 4 147lb fights I listed of Floyd.

Floyd must have been laughing though when Zab couldn't even beat Baldomir. In retrospect, Zab had problems at 147 as he lost 5 fights.


Anyhow the point was that the TS complains about Manny, who is fighting bigger men than he yet he somehow can't see what his hero Floyd has been doing at 147lb.

This is where you got it wrong..
1. Floyd tells what he's about, but you still get mad at him when he says it or does it.

2. I could care less about the man personally if you havent noticed they all put up a good front on camera.

3. Floyd stopped being a BEAST at 130, anything after that was just sparring sessions. A display of skill, nothing more nothing less.

So he's far from my hero... Who's your hero?

[Ryn0]

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Whats your point?

I knew Armstrong had fought for the titles below the WW lowest limit, I didn't know which fights or which weights so I looked it up instead of making assumptions and accusations about things that only occurs in my head i.e what you've done. It was a perfectly reasonable argument, I argued that Margarito and Pacquiao didn't deserve to be for a title 154.

I know for a fact that RJJ. Jr weighed in below 200lbs (it was in a espn clip) but I don't know the exact weight Jones shouldn't have got the title because he was light? Margarito was a poor opponent for Pacquiao, the way Manny beat him was impressive but I'd prefer to see him in with Mayweather, Martinez or the Bradley-Alexander winner. I'm not a huge Pacquiao fan I enjoy watching him fight but he isn't facing the people that he needs to face.

That out of the way you're argument is bull****, Ray Leonard weighed in at below 169 to fight Davey Moore for his title at 175 (guess what? Didn't have to look that one up) However, it was a catch weight fight so it's a double edged sword. My point is you can weigh below the lowest limit and it can still be a title fight....

[puga]

Manny just beat Margs for the vacant 154 pound JMW strap, at a catchweight of 150.

Marg weighed in at 150, the agreed upon max.
Manny weighed in at 144, 6 pounds under the agreed upon max.

150 was the max a fighter can weigh, there is no min weight. (I know this)......

I say that to say this........

This logic means that Manny vs Mosley can be for a vacant middleweight strap next... If Bob is willing to toss enough cash and favors around, Manny can have his 9th div....

Or is it just me that thinks that the Max of the previous weightcalass IS the min...

140 to 147 WW... 140 being the min, 147 being max... and so on.
So Manny never made the 148 min for that class..
Or let Manny fight Shane for the MW strap, let Ivan vs Arce happen for the HW strap.....

Or is it just me....

how the **** is 140 a ww when its the jww maximum?......

[DARKSEID]

Honestly they need to just delete these ******* ***** threads on the spot..

this has nothing to do with boxing and has nothing to do with sport.

[titanium]

Honestly they need to just delete these ******* ***** threads on the spot..

this has nothing to do with boxing and has nothing to do with sport.

Really, and remove the TS while they are doing it.