7 day cutoff is reasonable, but year round testing is needed

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  • EMACULATE
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    #31
    Maybe you dont pay attention but just to help you out. Fughters that have tested positive or admitted to taking illegal substances.

    ROY JONES JR
    JAMES TONEY TRAINED BY FREDDIE ROACH'
    FUNEKA
    SHANE MOSLEY- ADMITTED NEVER TESTED POSITIVE
    FERNANDO VARGAS
    MANJU WANNIARACHCHI
    JOEY GILBERT

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    • guru
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      #32
      Originally posted by tredh
      The bold is crazy. If the results a person seeks can't be obtained normally and they use something to get them than that is not fair. I mean some things aren't meant to be performed by the human body. I'm but that is cheating. Well maybe they should form 2 leagues for all sports those who don't use steroids and those that do use steroids.
      creatine makes you stronger too but thats legal. all athletes are on some kind of supplement. how do you define what should be legal and what should not?

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      • trainhard_187
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        #33
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        When your feeble mind grows, we can chat. This post is pretty terrible.
        I rest my case...!!! Only you and a hand full of preach about OST No Cut offs when in reality, that aint even the issue..

        Funny how no articles LATELY or of recent have anything to do with "Pac requesting a Cut off for OST" or "Pac holding up the fight with Floyd due to the OS Testing"

        Lately its been, "HBO not sure why Floyd decline Pacquiao" or "Floyd not willing to compromise.."

        Im just keeping it real wit you.. You can preach the OST with no cutoffs, but the truth is if Floyd wanted it he knows he can negotiate it and as a far as right now, its lookin like HE JUST ISNT INTERESTED.. and I aint being biased either..

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          #34
          Originally posted by Frank Ducketts
          If Bonds can hit 80 home runs, than a boxer can kill another boxer with PED's in his system.
          it can be done without it in his system. it can be done with creatine or a pro hormone in his system.

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          • TheSurgeonMDMPH
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            #35
            Originally posted by trainhard_187
            How do you know personally that Pac doesn't feel the same after a blood test? Your not him. You sit here and make assumptions about something u know nothing about. Maybe Pac isn't 100% after a blood test only he knows that. To top it off Team Pac was willing to compromise on a test that Floyd wanted, not the boxing commission and how many times did Floyd change his stance?

            1. 30 days Floyd says no 14days
            2. 2nd Negotiating Team Pac on record says they went down to 7days, now Floyd is silent and no compromise is being made.

            And for the record Floyd simply stated after the Mosley fight "Take the blood test and he'll fight Pac" Pacs willing too
            Probably becuz its on tape highlighting how he gets his physical and heads back to the gym following. He sure as hell didnt look sick after blood draws for the hatton and clottey fights. But they weren't testing for PEDs so I guess it wasnt as bad knowing u had no chance of getting exposed as a cheater.

            Pac never said 7 days. he said he agreed to his demands BUT koncz said they agreed to 7days! Stop spreading lies ***boy.

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            • Frank Ducketts
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              #36
              Originally posted by guru
              it can be done without it in his system. it can be done with creatine or a pro hormone in his system.
              When was it done with PED's NOT in their system?

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              • IMDAZED
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                #37
                Originally posted by guru
                it can be done without it in his system. it can be done with creatine or a pro hormone in his system.
                There's a huge difference between creatine and using a steroid for horses.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by trainhard_187
                  I rest my case...!!! Only you and a hand full of preach about OST No Cut offs when in reality, that aint even the issue..

                  Funny how no articles LATELY or of recent have anything to do with "Pac requesting a Cut off for OST" or "Pac holding up the fight with Floyd due to the OS Testing"

                  Lately its been, "HBO not sure why Floyd decline Pacquiao" or "Floyd not willing to compromise.."

                  Im just keeping it real wit you.. You can preach the OST with no cutoffs, but the truth is if Floyd wanted it he knows he can negotiate it and as a far as right now, its lookin like HE JUST ISNT INTERESTED.. and I aint being biased either..
                  Yeah, sure man. Like I said, come back when you can have an educated debate.

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                  • brick wall
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by tredh
                    The bold is crazy. If the results a person seeks can't be obtained normally and they use something to get them than that is not fair. I mean some things aren't meant to be performed by the human body. I'm but that is cheating. Well maybe they should form 2 leagues for all sports those who don't use steroids and those that do use steroids.
                    lol you're making it appear like peds are super supplement that can give you super powers. every human being has physical limitations and peds can't get you beyond that. if you're maximum power is 10, peds can't give you 11 or 12. what it can do is to help you attain your full potential. but like the ts said, you still need to train hard. in fact, peds can't give you what you can get using natural training methods. that's why it's called supplement because peds alone is not enough.

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                    • guru
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      I was referring to its side effects. And long-term effects.
                      its a powerfuld drug and should be treated as such. when taken incorrectly or abused it will do more harm then good but that is true of any drug.

                      you need to take supplements(for example milk thistle to cleanse your liver) before, during and after cycles to keep safe. also going to the doctor for testing is a good idea.

                      theres no question steroids are dangerous but so is any other drug.

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