Richard SCHAEFER in the Steroid Lawsuit: "PACQUIAO's Head Has Gotten Bigger".

[jrosales13]

Thanks a lot

Just sayin

[IMDAZED]

lol fine...he is not a ***** but an ost fan
the time and effort he spends debating peds and ost is unbelievable...he's obssesed. no difference to a ***** or ******* obssesed with their idols. it's insane...how can you have so much passion about something that you're not even part of. if he's a former fighter who was a victim of cheating you can understand it but this guy is just a fan.

This idealogy is why the sport is going in the ****ter. A fan is what the sport thrives on. And how positive changes can be made.

[jrosales13]

I really hate that a comment from Richard F'ing Schafer got so many responses...

Fuck Golden Boy and their hypocrisy.

[THE REED]

With IMDAZED is not about backing Floyd...He really doesn't.

He just backs OST. And, that is not a bad thing at all. Fans should back OST. And, I know for a fact that IMDAZED was talking about OST before all this Maweather-Pacquiao crap.

IMO is that he doesn't like how team Pac handled the whole thing. Frankly neither do I.

If I was part of Pac team and I personally would of told Mayweather camp to fuck off from the get go. However, accepting at first, then saying they were good with just a 5 day cut off, then changing their mind again and saying blood would weekend him so just wanting blood testing 3 days, and then Arum ****** ass saying Manny is afraid of needles, and then saying Floyd didn't give them a 14 day, then admitting Floyd did give them a 14 day cutoff, just do much flip flopping and lying that made plenty of people and I'm pretty sure IMDAZED as well su****ious...

I honestly think if Pac from the get go would of just said **** off we will not be dictated to...Maybe it would not have been a big issue as it is now. I don't know.

I do assume(maybe that is wrong for me to assume) that IMDAZED does think Pac is on something just cuz of how he handled the whole thing. I disagree with IMDAZED with I think Pac is clean. However, I do respect his opinion and I see where he is coming from. And, he does bring a lot of good points.

Is funny that people accuse IMDAZED as a "*****." But, if you guys read his post when is not a PED issue, you will notice that he has always said that Floyd resume isn't up to par with Roy and Pac. The man has gone as far as saying that Pac has a case to having a greater resume than Roy. And, he is a Roy nuthugger almost as bad as Reed. So he is not Pac hater either.

That is my crown, and no one will ever take it from me.

[Alibata]

Yes...Ali. That's exactly the problem. Did you see Diego Corrales against Joshua Clottey? Marquez-Mayweather? Notice something?

Oh, and don't neglect my previous post. I would like to know what "evidence" in Pacquiao's favor that I'm ignoring.

Ok.... Yeah I did... But look, Pac looks like he never dehydrated himself. That is it. Of course he would have added more bulk, who wouldn't having taken out the restriction of not having to make weight but he looks not very different. The point is Corrales Obviously moved up in weight so did Marquez. Pacquiao just did not have to cut it. He looks the same as his rehydrated weight with slightly more bulk, that is it.

[Eaner0919]

Look at Pac's rehdrated picture in that Marquez fight... You can ask the same exact question.. Where was the 15lb water weight. his face changed after rehydration and the body does not look that much different from his picture standing with cotto after he rehydrated with Marquez, Morales, etc

answer my question and not deflect it to the next day

simple question that no one really answers they just use the "well look at the next day look at Manny then"

so are you going to answer my question since you know so much about Manny?

between those two pics there is 15lbs of difference. Most people state that Manny is no longer dehyrdating down. So if that's the case......

[brick wall]

This idealogy is why the sport is going in the ****ter. A fan is what the sport thrives on. And how positive changes can be made.

i'm a boxing fan and i would support better testing for all concerned...but i won't go as far as what you're doing. we've seen how nsac is not interested in ost. most boxing officials and commissioners are mum about it. even most of the fighters seems not interested. so there's really not much you can do...fans can talk about it all day everyday and nothing will change.

[IMDAZED]

Ok.... Yeah I did... But look, Pac looks like he never dehydrated himself. That is it. Of course he would have added more bulk, who wouldn't having taken out the restriction of not having to make weight but he looks not very different. The point is Corrales Obviously moved up in weight so did Marquez. Pacquiao just did not have to cut it. He looks the same as his rehydrated weight with slightly more bulk, that is it.

Yeah...and like we said...when have you seen that in similar situations? You are ignoring the obvious. Maybe you don't get it. Maybe your bias is getting in the way. But what you're saying makes no sense in light of examples we have seen with our own two eyes.

[big_james10]

I had missed the details from the depositions:


Schaefer declaration
In a three-page declaration, Schaefer told the court that in late 2009 and early 2010, he and other GBP officers as well as Floyd Mayweather Jr. advisor, Al Hayman, engaged in negotiations for a proposed March 2010 bout between Mayweather and Pacquiao.

The parties were in agreement on all major financial terms and drug testing was the only issue left on the table. The Mayweathers had severe concerns about the possibility that Pacquiao had been using illegal PEDs in connection with his more recent fights.

These concerns arose from a number of factors, including the fact that it is highly unusual for a professional boxer to fight at heavier weights during his career and maintain the same level of power in his punches and ability to withstand hard punches from bigger opponents.

Yet, as Pacquiao has moved up in weight by 40 pounds (itself an extraordinary feat) during his career, he has become more powerful and more impervious to blows by his opponents.

For example, in prior fights against much smaller opponents such as Juan Manuel Marquez and Marco Antonio Barrera, Pacquiao was unable to score knock-outs and was at times stunned by their punches.

Yet, in his recent fights against physically bigger and much more powerful fighters – like Oscar de la Hoya, Ricky Hatton and Miguel Cotto – Pacquiao has scored devastating knockouts (or technical knockouts). In addition, he has survived devastating punches by his opponents with no apparent effect.

Pacquiao’s head has grown
In addition, as shown by a comparison of Pacquiao’s pictures from his early career and today, it is clear that the size of his head has grown and his body has become far more muscular. As shown by March 25, 2010 "Judd Burstein Declaration," these changes are often associated with the use of PEDs.

In the light of these concerns, Schaefer said he consulted with the United States Anti-Doping Agency “to determine the most effective way to ensure that the Pacquiao-Mayweather bout would be a clean affair."

Based upon these conversations, the Mayweather camp insisted that both fighters agree to the same drug testing imposed upon the United States Olympic Team: i.e. random blood and urine testing up to at least 48 hours before the bout.

Although Mayweather readily agreed to these procedures, Pacquiao and his representatives refused. Pacquiao only agreed to three scheduled blood test: 1.) upon the signing of the contracts for the bout; 2.) 30 days before the bout; and 3.) immediately after the fight.

Schaefer said, “Pacquiao’s refusal to submit to effective drug testing only served to increase the Mayweather team’s concerns that Pacquiao has been using PEDs."

Schaefer said he was included in the lawsuit along with De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather Jr., Floyd Mayweather Sr., Roger Mayweather and Mayweather Promotions when the “Amended Complaint alleges that, in September 2009, I told Philippine reporter Ronnie Nathanielsz – a reporter whom Pacquiao himself has accused of ‘fabricating horrible tales and putting words into the mouths of people he has not even talked to’ that I was 'sure Pacquiao was using PEDs.'"

He described such allegation as “absolute falsehood," saying, “if I had made the alleged statement to Nathanielsz, he (Nathanielsz) surely would have published it, which he did not."

Based on this statement by Schaffer and based on the fact that Pacquaio, nearly two years later, is still refusing to take random drug tests, I don't think Pac has much of a chance of winning this lawsuit.

[IMDAZED]

i'm a boxing fan and i would support better testing for all concerned...but i won't go as far as what you're doing. we've seen how nsac is not interested in ost. most boxing officials and commissioners are mum about it. even most of the fighters seems not interested. so there's really not much you can do...fans can talk about it all day everyday and nothing will change.

No, not true at all. I'm sorry if you feel that way but that's false. The power lies right within your wallet. And your vocal cords. Believe me, writers take what readers say to heart. And it's the toothless boxing media (enabled by countless dumb fans who support one thing or the other) that is hurting the sport.