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Richard SCHAEFER in the Steroid Lawsuit: "PACQUIAO's Head Has Gotten Bigger".

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  • I Think Timothy Bradley was on Steroid and also Andre Berto than Pacquiao

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    • Originally posted by Alibata View Post
      These pictures are a good answer to earners question. You can defintely see water weight from his Marquez weigh in. Just look at the abs. He is definitely less defined now. Less striations in the chest, etc. Biceps are less defined, shoulders are not as striated
      15lbs worth? LOL good to see you're the same

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      • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
        That's what I was asking - when guys like Corrales and co. don't have to cut weight...

        Ehh, forget it Ali.
        I am pretty sure if they thought they could still get better and improve and believed in themselves like pac always stresses improving, that he can still get better. If they believed that I assume they'd be training to get even better. Not everyone can be like Mike though no matter how hard they try. Floyd, Manny, thats what makes em special.

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        • Originally posted by | THE KING | View Post
          I asked how else? What are you talkin about reed? You ignore what's being put in front of you and continue on with your baseless assumptions.
          You asked how else he would maintain his fighting build...

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          • Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
            You asked how else he would maintain his fighting build...
            Thats all you got out of it?.. Gotcha.

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            • Originally posted by | THE KING | View Post
              I get what you are saying. From the looks of things he has gained significant muscle mass. Without that he'd be blown away at these higher weights. He probably gains a bit more weight after the weigh-in probably because he's eating freely while the strenuous training is now done, fight night is the next day.
              I think the point of speculation is being missed because guys like Alibata incorrectly think he is the same fighter at 130 that he is today. I think you and I both conclude he has gained some mass on him and is indeed a bigger fighter

              the question to the point is how. That's all.

              and when people bring up Bradley and go "well look at how ripped he is" I think are missing the point as well. Tim has been at 140 forever and clearly looks the same from his first fight at 140 to now.

              Manny looks essentially the same or close enough to the same and has ascended up in weight.

              that's a difference even if people don't see it

              anyways this speculation drives me bonkers because it turns guys like Ali into scholars lol

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              • Originally posted by Alibata View Post
                I am pretty sure if they thought they could still get better and improve and believed in themselves like pac always stresses improving, that he can still get better. If they believed that I assume they'd be training to get even better. Not everyone can be like Mike though no matter how hard they try. Floyd, Manny, thats what makes em special.
                wait

                one trains perpetually

                the other

                not so much

                care to guess who is who?

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                • Originally posted by Eaner0919 View Post
                  15lbs worth? LOL good to see you're the same
                  Huh??? Pac looks almost exact as he looks when he hydrates from 130 to 144 as he does at weigh ins now. .I don't get your point...


                  [IMG]http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:5vSDnfFcoQY0MM:http://i636.***********.com/albums/uu87/maos10/boxing/PacquiaoCottoFightscene.jpg&t=1[/IMG]









                  Random pictures. can you see the difference? I can't
                  Last edited by Alibata; 12-06-2010, 06:40 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
                    Pac is on HGH and some other things.
                    Pay ur bets and stop talking ****.

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                    • how many explosive fighters were ruined moving up in weight?

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