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  • guru
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    great response by ficher to pac criticism

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    "You claim that Pacquiao avoided certain fighters (Margarito after he beat Cotto and Mosley after he beat Margz) but I think you’re forgetting the dates of those fights and the weights that Manny fought at around those months.

    Margarito fought Cotto in July of 2008. Mayweather was welterweight champ at the time. He was the guy who needed to call out the winner of that showdown of the Nos. 1 and 2 welterweight contenders, not Pacquiao, who had JUST stepped up from the 130-pound division to claim a lightweight belt by beating up David Diaz one month prior to Cotto-Margarito. (Go look it up on Boxrec.com if your memory needs more jogging.) Why would you expect a guy who just won a lightweight title to call out the winner of a high-profile welterweight bout?

    Mosley destroyed Margarito in January of 2009, just ONE MONTH after Pacquiao shocked most of the boxing world by beating up on De La Hoya. Pacquiao jumped from 134˝ pounds to weighing in at 142 pounds to fight De La Hoya in a welterweight bout. Why would you expect a guy who just had his first welterweight bout (and who barely weighed above the junior welterweight limit for it) to call out Mosley after the veteran knocked out Margarito? Nobody even viewed the De La Hoya fight as a legit welterweight bout because of faded star’s wilted “condition” as you pointed out.

    The truth is, the jury was still out on whether Pacquiao could really hang at 147 pounds until his fight with Cotto. You can criticize Pacquiao for fighting Clottey but the Ghanaian was a top-5 contender at the time, and he’d never been decisively beaten until the Filipino hero smacked him around for 12 rounds.

    You can definitely criticize him for fighting Margarito, but in the aftermath of the failed Mayweather negotiations, who would you have preferred him to fight? Margarito was undeserving but his size, controversy and Mexican heritage helped sell the event."
  • comanick
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    Originally posted by guru
    http://www.ringtv.com/blog/2582/dougies_monday_mailbag/

    "You claim that Pacquiao avoided certain fighters (Margarito after he beat Cotto and Mosley after he beat Margz) but I think you’re forgetting the dates of those fights and the weights that Manny fought at around those months.

    Margarito fought Cotto in July of 2008. Mayweather was welterweight champ at the time. He was the guy who needed to call out the winner of that showdown of the Nos. 1 and 2 welterweight contenders, not Pacquiao, who had JUST stepped up from the 130-pound division to claim a lightweight belt by beating up David Diaz one month prior to Cotto-Margarito. (Go look it up on Boxrec.com if your memory needs more jogging.) Why would you expect a guy who just won a lightweight title to call out the winner of a high-profile welterweight bout?

    Mosley destroyed Margarito in January of 2009, just ONE MONTH after Pacquiao shocked most of the boxing world by beating up on De La Hoya. Pacquiao jumped from 134˝ pounds to weighing in at 142 pounds to fight De La Hoya in a welterweight bout. Why would you expect a guy who just had his first welterweight bout (and who barely weighed above the junior welterweight limit for it) to call out Mosley after the veteran knocked out Margarito? Nobody even viewed the De La Hoya fight as a legit welterweight bout because of faded star’s wilted “condition” as you pointed out.

    The truth is, the jury was still out on whether Pacquiao could really hang at 147 pounds until his fight with Cotto. You can criticize Pacquiao for fighting Clottey but the Ghanaian was a top-5 contender at the time, and he’d never been decisively beaten until the Filipino hero smacked him around for 12 rounds.

    You can definitely criticize him for fighting Margarito, but in the aftermath of the failed Mayweather negotiations, who would you have preferred him to fight? Margarito was undeserving but his size, controversy and Mexican heritage helped sell the event."
    Why did you not display what the reader asked? It looks like you have an agenda. This was in response to a very interesting question but you did show that .

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    • andre the giant
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      #3
      The sour floyd fanboys like burner and coach will be here in no time to make 500 posts in this thread about how great floyd is and how overrated pac is . They seem to be trolling extra hard latelly . Just a heads up man .

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      • BuckToothed
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        #4
        What do mean?!?!

        Manny is ducking Martinez at 160 and Marquez at 135 for their lineal belts, at the same time! WTF!

        The standard the haters want Manny to adhere to is lunacy at best.

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        • iNDOLiFER
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          #5
          Originally posted by BuckToothed
          What do mean?!?!

          Manny is ducking Martinez at 160 and Marquez at 135 for their lineal belts, at the same time! WTF!

          The standard the haters want Manny to adhere to is lunacy at best.
          damm the guy just fought not even a month ago and now he's gotta agree to fight asap or else he's ducking!!!

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          • k1llu
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            #6
            I don’t remember anybody calling for pac to fight magarito but I do remember Mosley going to roach after the Hatton fight before the cotto fight and he gat turned down twice even after he was willing to go down to 140 to fight pac roach said he was too good back then. How fuck are seriously going to call this a great response btw?

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            • guru
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              #7
              Originally posted by comanick
              Why did you not display what the reader asked? It looks like you have an agenda. This was in response to a very interesting question but you did show that .
              because it would have been very long post if included the readers part. i did provide the link. no agenda.

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              • guru
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                #8
                Originally posted by k1llu
                I don’t remember anybody calling for pac to fight magarito but I do remember Mosley going to roach after the Hatton fight before the cotto fight and he gat turned down twice even after he was willing to go down to 140 to fight pac roach said he was too good back then. How fuck are seriously going to call this a great response btw?
                after hatton, he fought cotto who did beat shane. so is it really ducking if you fight the guy that beat the guy you were "ducking"

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                • | THE KING |
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                  #9
                  Any normal boxing fan has known this from the jump.. the haters still in awe and can't believe what is happening.

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                  • SCtrojansbaby
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by guru
                    after hatton, he fought cotto who did beat shane. so is it really ducking if you fight the guy that beat the guy you were "ducking"

                    And this excuses him for fighting a 40 year old who hasn't won a fight in 2 years?

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