Floyd's offence is underrated

[V.WEBB]

actually that was almost all potshotting not throwing combos. watch marquez vs katsidis than watch this.

Uh, no it wasn't "almost all potshotting". At a buck 30, Floyd really let his hands go.

[daggum]

He did disarm JMM, JMM has no real answer aside from one shot here and there.

Floyd had his way outside and whenever he got in close tied up while getting off on the inside.


Pac is shorter and has way shorter reach than Floyd, Floyd knows how to properly exploit that range advantage. The bull can only take so many pricks of the sword before the matador winning is all but certain.

i agree. floyd will only be able to take so much. remember he always presses the attack against southpaws because he can't shoulder roll so he has to come forward to take the play away.

[daggum]

Uh, no it wasn't "almost all potshotting". At a buck 30, Floyd really let his hands go.

1:30 ok a single counter hook puts corrales down. kinda proves my point thank you.

[The Gambler1981]

i agree. floyd will only be able to take so much. remember he always presses the attack against southpaws because he can't shoulder roll so he has to come forward to take the play away.

Manny is at a huge range disadvantage, what dos it matter if Floyd is open for punches if Manny will never end up in range to do anything, he will get hit on the way in with a jab, or a straight right or a jab then a straight right.

It isn't rocket science, simple geometry.

[V.WEBB]

1:30 ok a single counter hook puts corrales down. kinda proves my point thank you.

The point that I addressed (marquez knows how to drop deadly combinations on fighters who come in on him. floyd does not know how to this. thus all the potshotting), was not proved by you posting a video of ONE round of the entire fight. Come on now.

[daggum]

Manny is at a huge range disadvantage, what dos it matter if Floyd is open for punches if Manny will never end up in range to do anything, he will get hit on the way in with a jab, or a straight right or a jab then a straight right.

It isn't rocket science, simple geometry.

manny doesn't stand still though. he has much faster footwork than floyd and like i said floyd always tries to come forward against southpaws which will put him in range. he can try to use his turtle shell defense while on the back foot but how will he get off? when he shoulder rolls against orthodox fighters he can turn defense into offense. you can't do that with a high guard.

[daggum]

The point that I addressed (marquez knows how to drop deadly combinations on fighters who come in on him. floyd does not know how to this. thus all the potshotting), was not proved by you posting a video of ONE round of the entire fight. Come on now.

well you said he threw combos vs corrales so it's on you to prove it not me. i'm sure he did throw some but that wasn't his game plan. marquez's entire game plan is to destroy you with combos as you get close.

[Marcov]

Mayweather has an offence? I would agree he has one of the best defences in boxing today but it's grabbing for hope suggesting he is in anyway a good offensive fighter.

[The Gambler1981]

manny doesn't stand still though. he has much faster footwork than floyd and like i said floyd always tries to come forward against southpaws which will put him in range. he can try to use his turtle shell defense while on the back foot but how will he get off? when he shoulder rolls against orthodox fighters he can turn defense into offense. you can't do that with a high guard.

Those guys all had much longer ranges then Manny has, Floyd generally fights in the way that makes the fight easiest for him.

Floyd's reach 72"

Laft Handers

Corley 70"
Mitchell 72"
Judah 72"
Pacquiao 67"

A couple right handers of note

JMM 67"
Hatton 65"

If Floyd is backing Manny up in such a fashion the fight is over for Manny because he will have already been broken mentally if that is happening.

[V.WEBB]

well you said he threw combos vs corrales so it's on you to prove it not me. i'm sure he did throw some but that wasn't his game plan. marquez's entire game plan is to destroy you with combos as you get close.

He did, I don't have to prove it to someone who has indeed watched the fight. If you saw the fight before, you know that. Anywho, how do you know what his plan was? LOL. Come on dude. As I said before, "at a buck 30, Floyd really let his hands go." Go watch his fights at that weight and you will see it.