Floyd's offence is underrated

[puga]

Scratch those things that cant be taught in the gym, for the most part you cant teach power or killer instinct. People here are clearly talking about technic .

no, we're clearly talking about offense.......

[FeFist]

i said move and punch not move and box. judah can box and move for about 4 rounds till he fades but someone who throws with abandon while moving gives him trouble. guys that are pressure fighters and move forward cause his offense to go down cause he's busy moving around instead of throwing. he would never stand in front of these type of guys. he will always move. mosley and gatti aren't really pressure fighters they are more boxer/punchers so they were easy stylistically for him. guys like castillo, hatton, and margarito have this type of tough style matchup for him. obviously pac is his worst nightmare because he's a southpaw as well.

Moving the goal post are we?

Anyway what you're saying still doesn't help your cause, if you want to talk about pressure fighters you can look at Hatton ( thanks for mentioning him) and Chavez two fighters he stopped. His offence didn't look poor in those match ups, he systematically broke them down throughout the fight.

Obviously he's going to try and move against a pressure fighter as you generally don't want them to get their feet planted. That isn't proof of him having a poor offence its the general strategy you employ against fighters like that.

[FeFist]

ofcourse , floyd does'nt have all of those and he does very well......but we're simply talking about offense here...

Read my post within the context..... You don't need all of those attributes for a good offence.

It's like the thought of there being multiple offensive styles is beyond your understanding.

[The Gambler1981]

i said move and punch not move and box. judah can box and move for about 4 rounds till he fades but someone who throws with abandon while moving gives him trouble. guys that are pressure fighters and move forward cause his offense to go down cause he's busy moving around instead of throwing. he would never stand in front of these type of guys. he will always move. mosley and gatti aren't really pressure fighters they are more boxer/punchers so they were easy stylistically for him. guys like castillo, hatton, and margarito have this type of tough style matchup for him. obviously pac is his worst nightmare because he's a southpaw as well.

While what you say is not complete fiction I would say your final analysis is missing the mark on Floyd.

Floyd is good enough on the inside to generally not get killed and in only one fight in his whole career did he even get beat in that area. That is why that fight sticks out and a lot of people think he lost it looks very different in comparison to the rest.

And it is not like guys have not tried to pressure him since that one fight, it has never turned out well for the other guy.

[led]

floyd has actually good offense. if you will look at his early fights when he lets his hands go. i think the reason why he was underrated is because in his recent fights he tends to be more cautious and he boxed more.

[DE100]

no, we're clearly talking about offense.......

Yes offensive technic. The things you keep bringing up like Speed, power, and killer instinct are not things that can be taught for the most part, you just have it or you dont. So what you're saying is if you're not born with none of these things your offense is no good?

[puga]

Moving the goal post are we?

Anyway what you're saying still doesn't help your cause, if you want to talk about pressure fighters you can look at Hatton ( thanks for mentioning him) and Chavez two fighters he stopped. His offence didn't look poor in those match ups, he systematically broke them down throughout the fight.

Obviously he's going to try and move against a pressure fighter as you generally don't want them to get their feet planted. That isn't proof of him having a poor offence its the general strategy you employ against fighters like that.

the chavez was a corner stoppage and before it was stopped they ere pretty much even, chavez just did'nt have the stamina.....same with the genaro fight.....

[FeFist]

the chavez was a corner stoppage and before it was stopped they ere pretty much even, chavez just did'nt have the stamina.....same with the genaro fight.....

So what if the corner stopped the fight? People say the most idiotic things nowadays.

Also the fight wasn't even at that point, people allow the HBO scorecards to influence their opinion too much.

[puga]

Yes offensive technic. The things you keep bringing up like Speed, power, and killer instinct are not things that can be taught for the most part, you just have it or you dont. So what you're saying is if you're not born with none of these things your offense is no good?

...check the thread title, do you see the word "technic" there?...lol...i never said floyd's offense was no good , never....that would be just pure hating....

[puga]

So what if the corner stopped the fight? People say the most idiotic things nowadays.

Also the fight wasn't even at that point, people allow the HBO scorecards to influence their opinion too much.

frst of all what did i say thats idiotic?...the reason i brought out the corner stoppages is becase people make it seem like they got destroyed ..i judge fights on my own!