Am I wrong for suspecting Manny?

[cixthree]

Training only PED's?? I'm assuming you're talking about non-stimulants. In that case these PED's have to be cycled for months and months for any positive effect to occur. In fact these these are best taken in between fights and not during training camp.

i see you have not one clue, Tho the facts you posted are indeed facts. They are only one side of a multi sided coin... 2011 says you don't need months of cycling these days dude, sorry... It's being done and you're blinders arenot helping this sport...
It's ok to love Manny but don't disrespect the sport with 1982 facts on jucing...

[carts]

Is this attack of the ALTs, jesus!... Manny would use PEDs cause the types of PEDs he's using are ONLY used in training. It's a game of math, timing and a good team that prevents them from being detected after the fight..\History has shown us it can be done.... Is that head on enuff, now answer mine ALT

i thought u said ur not a peds expert?lol..

[tibbar]

Am i wrong for suspecting Manny?

without prior indication? without proof of past violations? or because a convicted felon and former drug user and pusher said so?
Yes you are. END THREAD

[jack2x]

Is this attack of the ALTs, jesus!... Manny would use PEDs cause the types of PEDs he's using are ONLY used in training. It's a game of math, timing and a good team that prevents them from being detected after the fight..\History has shown us it can be done.... Is that head on enuff, now answer mine ALT

how would you know???????????????and why did victor conte sided with pac and berated floyd's ost??

[VoodooChild]

i see you have not one clue, Tho the facts you posted are indeed facts. They are only one side of a multi sided coin... 2011 says you don't need months of cycling these days dude, sorry... It's being done and you're blinders arenot helping this sport...
It's ok to love Manny but don't disrespect the sport with 1982 facts on jucing...

Do you have any citations for this? What PED's do you believe he is using, please be specific.

[carts]

how would you know???????????????and why did victor conte sided with pac and berated floyd's ost??

lol he even said he is not a peds expert in his OP now he suddenly is. hahaha

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

It is odd they would first say Manny was afraid of needles then later say taking blood would make him weak. That is very suspect. Another thing that makes no sense is how card core Pac fans say its Floyds way of getting out of the fight but how the heck did he know Pac would refuse all this? And forget for one second you heard it from Floyds father first that Pac was on steroids, I'm sure they had all been talking about it before he came out with that. People act like he influenced his son into thinking this just because he was the first to comment on it. Don't you people know things go on behind the scenes that we don't know about? Besides that, its Floyds life and health, so he has the right to question anything when its him that could be effected. People don't seem to realize these guys are playing with their lives in there. If Floyd asks for drug testing, then give them to him. We all know if Manny had accepted all terms to the testing in the beginning, no one ever would have had these strong feelings of it being unreasonable for him to ask for it. They are just upset because its stopped the fight from happening. If you are a fan of Pac and hate Floyd, of course you are going to blame Floyd and defend Pac, but that's just being biased and blinded by what you favor. They will never realize that or admit to it being the truth. The biggest bitttch move of all is the *******s joining together on the Pinoy forum and green K'ing each other to buld it up and red k all the Floyd fans who are obviously outnumbered. It just goes to show we are dealing with kids here.

[cixthree]

Those PED accusations only brought up by the Mayweathers then followed by his fans like a gospel. Then Pac not agreeing on Floyd demands in first negotiation only risen some su****ions but its doesn't mean Pac taking those PEDs. For Pac this a mind game Floyd trying to put in his mind that he won't allows. Back on PEDs issues, Pac beat his bigger opponents in which obviously using his speed advantages against those slower guys and also the fact he can take a punch. PEDs won't help you to have a better chin and makes you move faster. Either you have it or you don't. Pac also a well known hard worker when its come to training ever since his flyweight days. So he doesn't need any Performance Enhancing Drugs to get to his fighting condition. Another evidence also suggest if Pac was really using those steroids, PEDs or whatever it is. Why he can't even make weight at 147? These PEDs/steroids supposedly help you to gain muscles. At welterweight, Pac at fight night he never weighed in not more than 148? Those guys fighting at lightweight (135) usually weighed in between 140-148 and those fighting at welterweight usually weighed in between 152-160. I mean this PEDs issues are just pure bollshot!

So basicaly because he's Manny Pacquiao he is above juicing in your mind? Roy Jones did'nt need PEDs either, but he took them
You stone walling the idea is hurting the sport dude, Manny aint God.
How can manny take a punch, he was knocked ****eyed at lower weights....

I'm seeing it's a gap in communication here, do you speak english? if not it's kinda hard to get a good point across without being misunderstood..

[cixthree]

It is odd they would first say Manny was afraid of needles then later say taking blood would make him weak. That is very suspect. Another thing that makes no sense is how card core Pac fans say its Floyds way of getting out of the fight but how the heck did he know Pac would refuse all this? And forget for one second you heard it from Floyds father first that Pac was on steroids, I'm sure they had all been talking about it before he came out with that. People act like he influenced his son into thinking this just because he was the first to comment on it. Don't you people know things go on behind the scenes that we don't know about? Besides that, its Floyds life and health, so he has the right to question anything when its him that could be effected. People don't seem to realize these guys are playing with their lives in there. If Floyd asks for drug testing, then give them to him. We all know if Manny had accepted all terms to the testing in the beginning, no one ever would have had these strong feelings of it being unreasonable for him to ask for it. They are just upset because its stopped the fight from happening. If you are a fan of Pac and hate Floyd, of course you are going to blame Floyd and defend Pac, but that's just being biased and blinded by what you favor. They will never realize that or admit to it being the truth. The biggest bitttch move of all is the *******s joining together on the Pinoy forum and green K'ing each other to buld it up and red k all the Floyd fans who are obviously outnumbered. It just goes to show we are dealing with kids here.

People don't know Oscar asked Floyd for 2 extra drug tests, you know why they don't know this? Cause it was'nt a big deal, Floyd just took the tests...

[VoodooChild]

How can manny take a punch, he was knocked ****eyed at lower weights....

Manny was cutting a lot of weight back then, it's a little different when he can eat 5 meals a day and compared to starving himself. Also Billy Conn got knocked out at 140 lbs but then went on to go 13 rounds with Joe Louis at Heavyweight, was he juicing too?

Hey you may have missed my last post as well, check it out and let me know when you have those citations.