Floyd Mayweather Jr- "Of course, I'm better than Roy Jones Jr."

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  • Tarver is my dad
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    #61
    Originally posted by DiegoFuego
    Roy beat better opposition only because the 2 names he beat were at their worst (Toney being drained and Hopkins being a rookie)
    roy also had a hurt hand in both those fights...

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      #62
      Originally posted by MacKay
      I have a theory that McClellan was already braindamaged in some way before he fought Benn. After the first round of that bout. McClellan hardly did anything. Hardly threw any punches. He took so many bombs from one of the hardest punchers in middleweight history in Julian Jackson and in other fights before fighting Benn. Just he could take so much punishment. He had to go into a coma state before going down.
      yeah, neva thort of it like that, thats crazy isnt it. not to speak ill of him but isn't it true he was a bit of a bastard?

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        #63
        Originally posted by MacKay
        Gerald McClellan would easily outslug Benn. If he was in 100% condition.
        Out box but not out slug, G-Man was IMO the more talented fighter but Benn is as tough as they come.

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          #64
          Originally posted by - Evil -
          Out box but not out slug, G-Man was IMO the more talented fighter but Benn is as tough as they come.
          McClellan hits harder than Benn. It isn't even any contest. And he has a better ability to take punishment. 100% shape McClellan would blast Benn out in 3 rounds. He almoste blasted Benn out in the first round when they fought. Then his brain went to mush. Nobody can slug with McClellan except maybe Hagler. McClellan hits way harder but it end up being a contest of who breaks thier hand on their opponents head first. Also I dont think that Benn could take the punishment G took from Jackson without going down.

          Benn couldn't even knock down a braindamaged defenceless McClellan during their fight. And your saying that Benn is tougher than G. I think you need to do a re-evaluation. G was not even defending himself, he was a zombie in there and still Benn never dropped him. G on the other hand almost had Benn out in the 1st round.
          Last edited by The Troll; 08-24-2005, 05:09 PM.

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            #65
            Originally posted by MacKay
            McClellan hits harder than Benn. It isn't even any contest. And he has a better ability to take punishment. 100% shape McClellan would blast Benn out in 3 rounds. He almoste blasted Benn out in the first round when they fought. Then his brain went bye bye. Nobody can slug with McClellan except maybe Hagler. McClellan hits way harder but it end up being a contest of who breaks thier hand on their opponents head first. Also I dont think that Benn could take the punishment G took from Jackson without going down.

            Benn couldn't even knock down a braindamaged defenceless McClellan during their fight. And your saying that Benn is tougher than G. I think you need to do a re-evaluation. G was not even defending himself, he was a zombie in there and still Benn never dropped him. G on the other hand almost had Benn out in the 1st round. McClellan outslugs anybody other than Hagler.
            I'm not saying Benn hits harder or is tougher, i just think they are both close in them departments. Benn is really tough and he hits really hard. The fact that Benn was able to get up and fight on after the first round proves he's tough.

            Your theory works of the fact McCellan was brain ****ed before the fight and i dont believe that, so IMO it proves Benns a heavy puncher for the damage he did. i also think McCellans brain problems are part the reason he stayed up so well, once your brain has taken that much the senses switch off and your on auto pilot. You said yourself "zomie", you know from watching dawn of the dead that zombie dont go down easily

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              #66
              Originally posted by - Evil -
              I'm not saying Benn hits harder or is tougher, i just think they are both close in them departments. Benn is really tough and he hits really hard. The fact that Benn was able to get up and fight on after the first round proves he's tough.

              Your theory works of the fact McCellan was brain ****ed before the fight and i dont believe that, so IMO it proves Benns a heavy puncher for the damage he did. i also think McCellans brain problems are part the reason he stayed up so well, once your brain has taken that much the senses switch off and your on auto pilot. You said yourself "zomie", you know from watching dawn of the dead that zombie dont go down easily
              Benn does not hit Harder than Jackson. McClellan absorbed alot of heavy bombs from Jackson. It never caused to G to stop defending himself, stop throwing punches, and eventually go into a coma. G also as with Benn had Jackson hurt early and Jackson rallied back. But G still knocked him out. He was not like Tyson where if he did get you out in 1 he broke down psychologically.
              Last edited by The Troll; 08-24-2005, 05:21 PM.

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                #67
                a question for mackay...in the first round of the mcclellan/benn fight, mcclellan knocked down benn and threw him out of the ropes, after that knockdown, it seemed like the referee was sorta preventing mcclellan from finishing the job by warning mcclellan and benn with unnecessary warnings and as a result giving benn a little more time to recover from the knockdown. do u think mcclellan could've stopped benn in the first round if the ref would've let them just fight without giving benn those slight moments to recover?

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by MacKay
                  Benn does not hit Harder than Jackson. McClellan absorbed alot of heavy bombs from Jackson. It never caused to G to stop defending himself, stop throwing punches, and eventually go into a coma. G also as with Benn had Jackson hurt early and Jackson rallied back. But G still knocked him out. He was not like Tyson where if he did get you out in 1 he broke down psychologically.
                  Maybe Gman was hurting inside before but you have to give Benn credit for being a puncher, because he's a puncher if nothing else. he had terrible footwork, poor defence and a poor range of punches but he'd always be able to punch his way out of trouble.

                  McCellan in the end was too tough for his own good, a real shame.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Tarver is my dad
                    a question for mackay...in the first round of the mcclellan/benn fight, mcclellan knocked down benn and threw him out of the ropes, after that knockdown, it seemed like the referee was sorta preventing mcclellan from finishing the job by warning mcclellan and benn with unnecessary warnings and as a result giving benn a little more time to recover from the knockdown. do u think mcclellan could've stopped benn in the first round if the ref would've let them just fight without giving benn those slight moments to recover?
                    I'll answer it too.

                    I think the ref was stopping him too much but some refs are like that, they want the fighters to be in the right place and McCellan wasnt. After the first problem McCellan should have just learnt and waited for the ref to let him start instead of standing centre ring and making the ref waste seconds pushing him back.

                    I dont know if McCellan could have finished him though, its possible.

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                      #70
                      Okay, for ten years Roy was untouchable. Floyd is only 27 and has been in 2 close fights (Chavez,Costillo). And was hurt twice by Corley. When did you ever hear of Roy getting hurt?

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