Comments Thread For: Pacquiao's Adviser: Manny is Knocking Shane Mosley Out!

[p4p-champ]

DLH cherrypicked Pac not the other way around..

Cotto was KO'd but he was able to bounce back even after the Pac fight.. As evidence that he is now a contender to Martinez and has beaten Foreman. And also as evidence in the Clottey fight.

Hatton had an impressive win after the May fight at 140.. That was a 50/50 going in

Did you actually watch those fights?

It don't matter who cherry picked who, DLH was making a weight has hadn't made in like a decade and ended up weighing less than Manny. Game Over, no matter which you slice and dice it, it became a handicapped match. Great name for a resume, but in actuality, not even close to being as impressive if it were a healthy DLH.

Cotto beat a one legged man in Foreman and still managed to get hit in the process. Roach: Cotto needs to retire. Against Clottey, Cotto took way more punishment then he normally would have and you can clearly see during the fight, there were times were he started to back peddle. You see the doubt in him and the damaged the Margarito fight did. He was clearly not he same fighter he once was, even the commentators picked up on it. Cotto was ripe for the pickings.

Hatton nearly got KO'd against Juan fuckin Lazcano in the his first bout after getting Ko'd by Mayweather. He then faced the feather-fisted Pauly Malinaggi who he beat, but whats impressive about that? Hatton was ripe for the pickings.

[Pogue69]

He is fighting established fighters which is what a man in his position should be doing..

Even if I say JMM its still not true because when Pac fought he was still rebuilding his career from a lose he suffered in Indonesia..

What about a guy like Bradley? Undefeated champion at Pac's supposed ideal weight of 140 with 4 defenses. Or even a guy like Berto, an undefeated champion at 147 with 5 defenses.

Instead, he faces a guy like Clottey (decribed by Arum as a "good loser") and the disgraced Margarito. Now Mosley?

I would favour Pac against Bradley and Berto, but these guys have not yet learned how to lose, and that is not what Roach and the gang seem to want.

[RSBonos]

What about a guy like Bradley? Undefeated champion at Pac's supposed ideal weight of 140 with 4 defenses. Or even a guy like Berto, an undefeated champion at 147 with 5 defenses.

Instead, he faces a guy like Clottey and the disgraced Margarito. Now Mosley?

I would favour Pac against Bradley and Berto, but these guys have not yet learned how to lose, and that is not what Roach and the gang seem to want.

You would favor Bradley over Clottey, Margarito or Mosley? They are 50-50 fights at best for Bradley.

[mikemurni]

What about a guy like Bradley? Undefeated champion at Pac's supposed ideal weight of 140 with 4 defenses. Or even a guy like Berto, an undefeated champion at 147 with 5 defenses.

Instead, he faces a guy like Clottey and the disgraced Margarito. Now Mosley?

I would favour Pac against Bradley and Berto, but these guys have not yet learned how to lose, and that is not what Roach and the gang seem to want.

Bradley is a good fight and so is Berto.. But if you match them against Mosley, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito.. I would favor these 4 guys over Berto and Bradley at this point... Let them build their resume and fight the top WW's in that division.. Having a zero loss in your record could also mean that you haven't fought anyone significant yet..

[Team Vitaminas]

first one to knock him out but at what point in Mosleys' career? sure he'll win thats why they picked him.I hope Mosley takes some of what he took against Oscar and beats Pacquiao real good for being a pussy.

[mikemurni]

Did you actually watch those fights?

It don't matter who cherry picked who, DLH was making a weight has hadn't made in like a decade and ended up weighing less than Manny. Game Over, no matter which you slice and dice it, it became a handicapped match. Great name for a resume, but in actuality, not even close to being as impressive if it were a healthy DLH.

Cotto beat a one legged man in Foreman and still managed to get hit. Against Clottey, he took way more punishment they he normally would have and you can clearly see during the fight, there were times were he started to back peddle. You see the doubt in him and the damaged the Margarito fight did. He was clearly not he same fighter he once was, even the commentators picked up on it. Cotto was ripe for the pickings.

Hatton nearly got KO'd against Juan fuckin Lazcano in the his first bout first after getting Ko'd by Mayweather. He then faced the feather-fisted Pauly Malinaggi who he beat, but whats impressive about that? Hatton was ripe for the pickings.

If you flipped it, you can also say that Pac moved up 3 divisions to beat DLH.. So its a good win..

Cotto was winning that fight even before Foreman got injured... And Cotto has always been in the receiving end of a knockdown even before he fought Marg...

Hatton fought Malignaggi at 140 and won impressively...

A lot of this things are hindsight which makes it easy to dismiss because how easy defeated this fighters.. But all those fights are 50/50, while DLH was 4 to 1 favorite..

[Plaster...Sad.]

Hmmm, from my understanding, Cotto didn't finish the fight and a TKO goes down as a KO in the record books. So, sorry, I like Cotto but he didn't finish the fight, therefore he got KO'd by Pacquiao. And, if Margarito's trainer would have done the right thing, he would have stopped the fight after the 11th round. But the bottom line here is, your boy got KO'd. Deal with it!

? It comes down to the ref sometimes. Cotto would have NO doubt finished the fight. The Ref, made a decision that perhaps another ref like Margarito's would not have made. Nobody got KO'd rook.

[Pogue69]

You would favor Bradley over Clottey, Margarito or Mosley? They are 50-50 fights at best for Bradley.

I think Bradley handles them at this point. My point is why fight guys who have recently suffered big losses instead of an undefeated champion?

Bradley has called Pac out. When Mosley called Mayweather out, this message board was polluted with threads about being a punk if you don't fight someone who calls you out. Now that Pac isn't fighting someone who calls him out the excuses about it being a business and Bradley not bringing enough to the table are all over the place.

I agree, boxing is a business, but the hypocrisy from some Pac fans is sickening. They criticize Maywether for certain behaviour and then justify and even praise Pac for the same damn behaviour. I actually used to cheer for Pac, but cannot anymore in good conscience.

[VERDUGO]

He isn't as great as they picture they paint him. There is a lot of smoke and mirrors involved.


Oscar DeLahOya at 147 - Manny outweighed the dehydrated DLH
Ricky Hatton at 140 - impressive KO but its only bar room brawler Hatton whom Mayweather soften up.
Miguel Cotto at 147 - Manny beat a man who was recently assaulted with plaster
Joshua Clottey at 147 - Manny was a 5 - 1 fave against this skilless bum
Antonio Margarito at 154- Manny was a 8 - 1 fave against this skilless bum

Manny has chosen the right right opponents at the right time. Look who he is fighting next, Shane Mosley.

Oscar DelaHoya- 20-1 favourite .Pac moved up 3 weight classes. Oscar has thrown morepunches in 8 rounds against pacquiao than he did against Mayweather. .That's a fact..look it up...Mayweather only beat Oscar in a SD..and alot of people thought Oscar won including Floyd Maywqeather Sr.

Ricky HAtton- Pac beat him at 140..his best weight class..in 2 rounds..out cold.....
Not at 147 like MAywetaher did...with the help of Joe Cortez

Miguel Cotto- "Would you like to fight Miguel Cotto?" Larry Merchant
"I'mnot gonna let boxing retire me,I retire from the sport"- Floyd the Coward

Joshua Clottey- He would beat mayweather. Mayweather's potshot wouldn't be enough to beat a tank like Clottey.

Antonio Margarito--- ***** coward Mayweather turned down 8 million to fight that "skill less bum"

[LeadUppercut]

It's not that he wins, it's how he wins. Mayweather barely beat ODLH, Manny thrashed him, it took Mayweather 10 rounds to get to Hatton, Manny thrashed him, Mayweather wouldn't fight Cotto, Manny thrashed him, Mayweather wouldn't fight Margarito, Manny thrashed him! It's the way the fights are won... Manny is exciting... Mayweather puts me to sleep...

That is most likely because you have little-to-no understanding of the sweet science, as your username suggests.

That is proven by the fact that you even mentioned Hoya as a comparision.

You seem to have no comprehension of the fact that a technician, a pure boxer, goes about his business with an entirely different approach.

BTW, I am waiting for you to answer 6 questions on the other thread.

Don't be too long now.....