Vitali's political stance

[Dude]

1. I do believe that Yanukovich believes in democracy.

I also believe that some of his surrounding figures don't and they hurt Yanukovich much more than they help him.


2. There are at least three major cultural centers in Ukraine:

I. L'viv (western ukraine, pro-Yushenko)
II. Kyiv (center, 60% pro-Yushenko, not sure about exact number)
III. Kharkiv (eastern, former capital of Ukraine, pro-Yanukovich)
IV. Odessa (southern, former intellectual and humor capital of Ukraine, pro-Yanukovich )

The demonstration that you see in Kiev are mostly pro-Yushenko and many people from Western Urkaine came to Kiev to support Yushenko.

There is not a single center that you refer to.

1. Well, since you agree that some people around Yanukovich don't believe in democracy how can you support him and therefor support them and help them gain more power to abuse?

2. Kiew isn't only like 60 percent Yushenko, the number should be a lot higher. And how do you know that Odessa is pro-Yanukovich which I doubt?

You know the country better than I do but Kiew is the most important city of the Ukraine isn't it?

[Pno]

so if I get famous, I have to stop speaking my mind?
don't you think it's good to see famous people show emotions and effort to human causes? It's a change from the normal superficial self-centered galavanting they normally are known for, isn't it?

Let me ask you this...
would you rather see the normal trash talking, promiscuous lifestyle, better-than-thou attitude of professional boxers than this humanitarian display shown by VK?

honestly...?

don't get me wrong, I think it's wrong to blame others, or point your finger, or lash out against your enemies... so many times what celebrities say, I feel is not right or maybe the wrong timing.

[Nautilus]

1. Well, since you agree that some people around Yanukovich don't believe in democracy how can you support him and therefor support them and help them gain more power to abuse? T

2. Kiew isn't only like 60 percent Yushenko, the number should be a lot higher. And how do you know that Odessa is pro-Yanukovich which I doubt?

You know the country better than I do but Kiew is the most important city of the Ukraine isn't it?

1. I believe that Yushenko believes in democracy, but some of his surroundng figures don't (like the ultra-right ****s who happen to be on his side this time, while previously they were not). The same is generally true of Yanukovich.

2. How do I know about Odessa? Well, I read the news every day, I spend hours every day reading the Ukrainian news.

3. Is Kiev the most important in Ukraine? Is New York the most important in the USA?


Look, you seem to be UNHAPPY about my opinion. You do not respect it, while I respect yours.

There is very little you can do to change this. Why don't we stop arguing right here? ok?

[Nautilus]

so if I get famous, I have to stop speaking my mind?
don't you think it's good to see famous people show emotions and effort to human causes? It's a change from the normal superficial self-centered galavanting they normally are known for, isn't it?

Let me ask you this...
would you rather see the normal trash talking, promiscuous lifestyle, better-than-thou attitude of professional boxers than this humanitarian display shown by VK?

honestly...?

don't get me wrong, I think it's wrong to blame others, or point your finger, or lash out against your enemies... so many times what celebrities say, I feel is not right or maybe the wrong timing.

I respect very much the fact that Vitaliy takes a very active position in all of this. This is what a true citizen and patriot of his country is supposed to do.

[Pno]

Amen to that!

he also seems to go beyond nationality and also apeal to the future of mankind, which is today's children.



wow, i'm starting to sound like Oprah over here

[Dude]

1. I believe that Yushenko believes in democracy, but some of his surroundng figures don't (like the ultra-right ****s who happen to be on his side this time, while previously they were not).

2. How do I know about Odessa? Well, I read the news every day, I spend hours every day reading the news and looking at what happens.

3. Is Kiev the most important in Ukraine? Is New York the most important in the USA?


Look, you seem to be UNHAPPY about my opinion. You do not respect it, while I respect yours.

There is very little you can do to change this. Why don't we stop arguing right here? ok?

I find it hard to respect your opinion because you can't show me how you can support a group that has manipulated elections and poisoned their political enemy. You didn't say anything about the law that is needed for fair elections and that is blocked by these people either.

And there really shouldn't be an argument about wether Kiew is the most important center and city in the Ukraine. It definitly is.

I've heard different stories about Odessa but that's just the western media, right?

Anyway, I respect you but I just can't understand your opinion. I didn't really want to change it I just wanted to hear your side of the story. Whatever, let's leave it here and move on.

[Bombardier]

so if I get famous, I have to stop speaking my mind?
don't you think it's good to see famous people show emotions and effort to human causes? It's a change from the normal superficial self-centered galavanting they normally are known for, isn't it?

Let me ask you this...
would you rather see the normal trash talking, promiscuous lifestyle, better-than-thou attitude of professional boxers than this humanitarian display shown by VK?

honestly...?

don't get me wrong, I think it's wrong to blame others, or point your finger, or lash out against your enemies... so many times what celebrities say, I feel is not right or maybe the wrong timing.

Do you actually believe that the celebrities that are speaking out are not self-centred, arrogant, promiscuous jerks? Most of them are just as ignorant, yet on top of the normal displays of self-centredness they try to preach to others about issues that they know nothing about. Do you really think that Madonna is a humanitarian? Come on.

I respect people who lead by example in the fields in which they are truly experts. I respect Bernard Hopkins for his work ethic, his commitment to his profession and for the stances he takes against the boxing establishment. I respect Oscar De La Hoya for his risk-taking and his business abilities. This is more inspirational than a Hollywood celebrity telling me how to vote when they probably haven't a read a book or a newspaper in decades.

[Pno]

I guess you didn't notice the last bit of my post...

[Pno]

This is what I feel you're talking about..
the fakes galavanting around, I think the example you give is Madonna..
I would never include those whom you speak of in the same category as VK... that's what I'm trying to say.

[Bombardier]

I guess you didn't notice the last bit of my post...

I didn't know if that was what you meant for sure. Don't mind me, I'm just a big fan of debating when the right issues comes up . I agree with you that if people in positions of influence genuinely tried to improve the world, than we would all be better off. I do believe Vitali's intentions were genuine and that he may be in the right position where speaking his mind is a good thing, given his status in his home country and the sincerity of his convictions. Just wanted to get other people's opinions.