If you hate on Pac you aren't a true boxing fan!!

[jrosales13]

TS, you didn't create a hit n run thread did you?

[norrin]

Yes it is painfully obvious that u r wrong.

1. Most determinations about who is ducking who is dependent on who you are a fan of regardless of your title or rank. I'm sure President ***** and Stephen Hawkins will have an idea of who is ducking but it doesn't really matter.

2. Did PAC really clean out the division at 140, 147, or 154? So you are saying he has all of the championships in each division? I don't think so.

3. He is no Mike Tyson.

Maybe you are not a true fan for believing so much in an illusion that Bob Arum and Freddie Roach built. Time will tell were PAC belongs, so I don't need u to tell me.

[Michael Hall]

Why are so many supposed boxing fans, always complaining about Manny Pacquiao. All I keep hearing is the same useless cry babies, crying about the same baseless things:


• Manny will not fight Floyd.
It is painfully obvious to even a blind man that Floyd will not fight Manny. I value the opinion of boxing writer’s historians and analysts who know more about the sport than anyone of us ever will, and they all say Floyd is ducking Manny. (Hauser, Rafeal, Bert Sugar, Lampley, Merchant, Max, Stewart). And 90% of the world agrees.

I'm pretty sure 99.9% of the experts had Cabellero beating Litzau as well.

• Pacman is cherry picking his opponents
Pac has fought anyone and everyone put in front of him. He has cleaned out the division, who is there left to fight. Fine an argument can be made for JMM, but does anyone honestly think JMM will last more than 6 rounds. Berto and Mosley would maybe not even make it 6 rounds. Pac is just that much above the competition. What if he hit JMM with the shot that broke Margarito's eye socket, think about that.

Where is your logic? You're using "what if" hypothetical scenarios to make your point. You don't know how long Berto or JMM will last until Manny gets his butt in the ring, fights them, and stops CHERRY PICKING!

We are lucky enough to get something exciting happening in boxing since the days of Tyson.

Are you really trying to say Manny Pacquiao is the most exciting fighter since Tyson. FOH!!

I guess you've never heard of Arturo Gatti, Chico Corrales, Erik Morales, Felix Trinidad, Ricardo Mayorga or Glen Johnson??

No one ever accused Tyson of fighting bums, he was just that much better than everyone. We got a guy who actually wants to fight, give us exciting fights and give the hardcore and casual fans something to look forward to. He's not like the Floyd's were money rules everything, this guy fights for the fans.

You are truly the defintion of a *******. LOL!

If money didn't rule everything then why is Pac fighting Mosley instead of JMM? Oh yea, MONEY (and fear).

I don't have time to reply to the rest of the drivel. I'm sure others in this thread have owned you by now.

[Dagomba]

No.
I will not address the Floyd comment because I agree with you. Now, you aren't a true boxing fan if you believe he has cleaned out any division. Maybe and questionably 130. How many fights did he have at 135? and against who? What about 140? He didn't even come close to facing the very best at 135 or 140. Welter weight? This is the class most Pacquiao fans think he belongs, he has not faced the good undefeated boxers at 147 and now he will most likely fight Mosley. How's that cleaning a division?
Regarding the scales, you have to be pretty blind to see that there was no real reason to make cotto fight at 145, what was the point? Oscar had not fought at welter since 2001, However I really don't care about that fight. Now they are arguing about a possible match up against JMM at 147. Why at 147? when we know there's a much fair weight they can both make with out making Pacquiao suffer. Pacquiao is a very good boxer and an all time great but you have to see that your comments are not real facts.

[fcastro1]

Why are so many supposed boxing fans, always complaining about Manny Pacquiao. All I keep hearing is the same useless cry babies, crying about the same baseless things:


• Manny will not fight Floyd.
It is painfully obvious to even a blind man that Floyd will not fight Manny. I value the opinion of boxing writer’s historians and analysts who know more about the sport than anyone of us ever will, and they all say Floyd is ducking Manny. (Hauser, Rafeal, Bert Sugar, Lampley, Merchant, Max, Stewart). And 90% of the world agrees.

• Pacman is cherry picking his opponents
Pac has fought anyone and everyone put in front of him. He has cleaned out the division, who is there left to fight. Fine an argument can be made for JMM, but does anyone honestly think JMM will last more than 6 rounds. Berto and Mosley would maybe not even make it 6 rounds. Pac is just that much above the competition. What if he hit JMM with the shot that broke Margarito's eye socket, think about that.

• The newest one - Pac is making his opponents lose on the scale
Everyone he has fought has signed a contract knowing full well what the weight was. Do you think Cotto, or Margarito and especially Oscar signed on the dotted line thinking “hey I’m going to get my A$$ kicked at that weight”. No! Of course not, they all believed they would come out the winner regardless of the weight. These guys are pro fighters who know what they can and cannot do. The weight thing is just a ridiculous argument. Even JMM complaining about getting a catch weight fight, what difference would it make, Pac weighed 144lb for his last fight and was 148 on fight night, JMM was 145 on fight night, even if it is a WW fight neither guy is going to weigh 147 anyways.

We are lucky enough to get something exciting happening in boxing since the days of Tyson. No one ever accused Tyson of fighting bums, he was just that much better than everyone. We got a guy who actually wants to fight, give us exciting fights and give the hardcore and casual fans something to look forward to. He's not like the Floyd's were money rules everything, this guy fights for the fans.

Even if they are catch weight fights, who really cares as long as we are getting fights. What other fighter has done that in the last 15 years? no one has really cared about boxing for 10 years. And the same boxing fans that complain now about Pac, are the ones that were complaining that boxing was dying. Is it really that hard to just appreciate a really great fighter. Why not just live in the moment and enjoy the few fights that he has left. Otherwise why do you even bother being a boxing fan, when your negativity is killing the sport you want to save.

forget the haters dude. We are witnessing something special a fighter that comes to fight and is exciting and is also one of the all time greats of the sport. What else could you ask for as a boxing fan.The jokes thing is that as time goes by pacs stock will be even greater and a lot of these clowns will look ****** for hating on a legend in his prime.

[Chups]

lmao ******* to the rescue

I'll hit you red when you go green.

[fcastro1]

Yes it is painfully obvious that u r wrong.

1. Most determinations about who is ducking who is dependent on who you are a fan of regardless of your title or rank. I'm sure President ***** and Stephen Hawkins will have an idea of who is ducking but it doesn't really matter.

2. Did PAC really clean out the division at 140, 147, or 154? So you are saying he has all of the championships in each division? I don't think so.

3. He is no Mike Tyson.

Maybe you are not a true fan for believing so much in an illusion that Bob Arum and Freddie Roach built. Time will tell were PAC belongs, so I don't need u to tell me.

if he beats mosley or berto he has basically cleared out the welterweight division. Floyd is not even in the equation anymore.

[infamous larryx]

cleaned out what division??

[Chuckguy]

I'll hit you red when you go green.

Spoken like a true tard
come on chups I want to think you are better than than bro

[dorruel2.0]

I'll hit you red when you go green.

you think i give a damn *******, unlike you i im not a 40 year old ****** keyboard warrior, who cant get a grown mans **** out his mouth
have one of these biatchhhh