Stop it Marquez fans

[Michael Hall]

Marquez fans are idiots. Boxing isnt a game. If Marquez fight Pac at 147 and Pac doesnt show mercy then Marquez will piss blood for weeks. Sad thing is he will still probably drink it like Kool-aid.

You honestly sound like the idiot.

Boxing is not all about weight. Boxing is about SKILLS.

Otherwise how was Chris Byrd able to dominate David Tua?

How was Pac able to beat Margarito?

How did Roy Jones beat JOhn Ruiz?

How did Ray Leonard beat Hagler?

How did Sweet Pea beat Jorge Vaca at 154?

How did Floyd beat Oscar at 154?

How did Shane Mosley jump two weight classes and beat Hoya?

How did Martinez beat Pavlik?

It's called the sweet science for a reason. Yes, weight matters but it's not the be all end all when determining the outcome of a fight.

Stick around you may learn something sonny...

[boxer101]

If you open your eyes to read maybe you can respond better. I said 145 cotto weight drain not 147, that means Marquez does not have to put more weight that is going to hurt him yet cotto coming in at 145 lbs will drain him just same way paquiao did to cotto. I'm not taking about JMM more demand leverage, just fair fight like paquiao and than we can compare apples to apple. Marquez beat Paquiao twice while cotto got tko.

Wow where do i start on this **** post? if Marquez and Cotto did fight Marquez is not enough of a draw compared to Cotto to make any demands on the weight the fight would be at. If you really believe that a Marquez Cotto fight at 147 goes anything like Pac Cotto at 145 you should follow a different sport. Marquez is a great lw im not saying he isnt and p4p is better then Pacs last 5 opponents but in actual matchups at ww he doesnt belong.

[loui_ludwig]

JMM vs. DLH @ 147: 1-0

I'd take JMM by TKO. Oscar was done.

JMM vs. Hatton @ 140: 2-0.

JMM by brutal KO (i'll admit that jmm would struggle more with hatton than manny did).

JMM vs. Cotto at 145: 3-0. Tough fight for JMM, but at the end of the day skills pay the bills and Cotto ain't been **** since Margarito.

JMM vs. Clottey @ 147: 4-0. Marquez wins this fight quite easily. Clottey is not going to out technical JMM. No way. Boring fight, but I got JMM.

JMM vs. Margarito @ 147: 5-0. Marquez beats the living plaster out of Margs.

I see Marquez going 5-0 just like Pac (differnce is JMM would struggle a bit more).

With that said, how would Pac do against JMM's last five?


KATSIDIS, DIAZ, MAYWEATHER, CASAMAYOR, JUAREZ

I got PAC going at 4-1. LOL!

Pac-Mayweather is 50-50 for me so don't know who to pick. The rest, 4-0.

BTW on JMM against Pac's last 5, Just WOW on your picks.

[Chuckguy]

Why all this comparisons between Marquez and Pacquiao and Pac's victims at ww.

Just because they had some close fights , doesnt mean JMM will be able to do what Pac has done.

Pacquiao is just an explosive fighting machine. JMM is a counter punching mastermind ****er.

People fail to realize that Pac's style is what has helped him with his success.

Speed kills. specially when ur a volume puncher.

And Pac's speed is just fkn ridiculous. People need to fkn understand that and let it be.

Marquez vs Mosley at 147?? Really?? Only reason why that fight is being considered is because Mosley is 39 and is a shell of himself.

Some people need to get slapped for such questions.

Just because Floyd. The most skilled (boxing wise) fighter out there , embarassed Mosley , doesnt mean JMM could do it.

I agree Marquez loses all the fights Pac "cherry picked" at ww and loses them badly. Marquez is a great lw he doesnt belong above 135. I would rather Pac fight Marquez then Mosley just to hear the Marquez brothers make excuses and to hear those same fans crying for the fight tell us how Marquez was already shot.

I agree but I think its trash that pac isnt willing to set a catchweight of like 138 to fight a third scrap with JMM. He is fighting for the supposed 154 title coming in at 144? WTF is that ?
he can easily make 138. Then when it was brought up Bob Arum said they would fihgt JMM at 147?WHAT!?
talk about raping people and taking all the advantages. People on here are saying what has JMM done to deserve a pac fight
well he only lasted 12 rounds against P4P #1b and was outweighed by easily 20pds on fight night then he beat a heavy puncher in Katsidis and looked pretty good at doing so

what has my man SSM done to earn a shot at pac
lets see
he got schooled by Mayweather then looked almost as bad against Mora
JMM is 1-1 with 1ko in his last 2 bouts
SSM is 0-1-1
but yet arum and camp pac go with SSM instead of JMM?
Packy"peeleft: he is a SHAM!

[Michael Hall]

This post shows that you either truly dont know **** about boxing or are letting your hate control your perceptions.

I'll forget more than you'll EVER know about boxing.

I've traveled all over the United States to watch boxing ever since I was 13 years old. I'm 33 now.

I've actually been in a boxing ring before, been hit, been dropped, drained myself to make a weight (plastic suit and all).

So I laugh when I hear naive morons such as yourself tell me I don't know what I'm talking about.

That's why cats like Roger Mayweather is always saying things like "the fans don't know **** about boxing".

Most don't.

[Plaster...Sad.]

Da **** u talkin about? **** cheney is an american hero.

[ny123]

I agree but I think its trash that pac isnt willing to set a catchweight of like 138 to fight a third scrap with JMM. He is fighting for the supposed 154 title coming in at 144? WTF is that ?
he can easily make 138. Then when it was brought up Bob Arum said they would fihgt JMM at 147?WHAT!?
talk about raping people and taking all the advantages. People on here are saying what has JMM done to deserve a pac fight
well he only lasted 12 rounds against P4P #1b and was outweighed by easily 20pds on fight night then he beat a heavy puncher in Katsidis and looked pretty good at doing so

what has my man SSM done to earn a shot at pac
lets see
he got schooled by Mayweather then looked almost as bad against Mora
JMM is 1-1 with 1ko in his last 2 bouts
SSM is 0-1-1
but yet arum and camp pac go with SSM instead of JMM?
Packy"peeleft: he is a SHAM!

I agree for the most part.

[Michael Hall]

Pac-Mayweather is 50-50 for me so don't know who to pick. The rest, 4-0.

BTW on JMM against Pac's last 5, Just WOW on your picks.

My bad I never realized that CLOTTEY and MARGARITO were considered MURDERERS ROW to some people here at NSB.

LMAO!

Oh yea, Paulie Malinaggi's lil bum ass cosigned Clottey as being a beast, so boxing fans ate up not realizing Paulie a bum himself.

I love it how Pac fans think that only Pac can rise up in weight and find success against weight drained, non technical and has been fighters.

Gotta love it.

[-Huey-]

JMM vs Mosley? I thought it was Pac vs Mosley next....wtf.

[ny123]

I'll forget more than you'll EVER know about boxing.

I've traveled all over the United States to watch boxing ever since I was 13 years old. I'm 33 now.

I've actually been in a boxing ring before, been hit, been dropped, drained myself to make a weight (plastic suit and all).

So I laugh when I hear naive morons such as yourself tell me I don't know what I'm talking about.

That's why cats like Roger Mayweather is always saying things like "the fans don't know **** about boxing".

Most don't.

Through your ****** ass posts you have shown to know nothing. The fact that you're 33 and have been watching since you were 13 only makes it that much more pathetic.