Im sorry..theres no reason manny shouldnt be fighting jmm

[Twako]

I am not looking at this as a JMM fan, I could careless if the win means less for JMM if he beats Pac at 135.

The fact if Pac wins at 135 would mean something it what matters to me. I am looking at it as a Pac fan maybe you should try it.

At 140 it means nothing. And, BTW JMM is not starving at 135. So of course he wouldn't be starving at 140 sherlock, nice observation.

Above 135 it means nothing... What is Pac fighting for? Not a damn thing, JMM is not elite above 135 so what does a win do?

Now if Pac wins at 135? Now tell me how that wins does when you realize what historic accolades come with it.

Above 135 means nothing. If Pac wants to fight at 140 wait for Bradley to beat Alexander. Beating Bradley at 140 means more than beating JMM at 140.

you're being idealistic, not realistic.

pac hasnt been 135 for a while now and it'll be a hard grind for him to go down to it. excuses will fly when he loses, and you know it.

hell, when cotto dropped down 1 ****in lb less than his last fight and everyone was up in arms that he was drained. tony, a career WW, fought once at JMW, was called drained at 150.

and what does fighting for something above 135 have to do w/ anything? this fight isnt about belts or titles anymore.

[puga]

Well considering he pretty much weighed 143 for a fight that he tried to put on weight for a fight at 150 makes me pretty damn sure he would not be weighed drained.

There is not a fighter at 140 that I would favor to beat Pac at 140.

There is not a fighter in the top JWW that I would favor JMM to beat.

Pac can still be an elite JWW, JMM can not.

Is 135 or no fights. It means nothing above 135.

If Pac wants to fight at 140 then wait for Bradley to beat Alexander.

Is that simple...Stop diminishing Pac greatness and what he can accomplish.

pac has grown out of tht weighclassfor more than 2 years now......meaning he has'nt had that low of a weight for a long time, so him being weighdrained is a big possibilty... .....yeah, pac beating 140 lbers, but not jmm should'nt the measuring stick becuase thats what separtes these two fighters..one can be effective at higher weights and the other cant, its really unfair to pac.....that's puttting pac to a higher standards than jmm...

[IronDanHamza]

It will be....

You got idiots like Puga who don't mind it though

I know, Manny has an incredible resume. But now, it really doesn't matter who he fights, he will ALWAYS get credit off guys like him, and he isnt a minority at the moment. No matter how legit the opponent is, Manny will ALWAYS get credit.

[viperz007]

the problem is MONEY

marquez just beat someone who is beaten by almost everyone and a fighter who make his face his sheild, who is marquez to ask for too much money???

the truth is he hasnt earn his spot to have a payday from pac so if he wants to fight pac he should just follow wat pac wants him to do PERIOD pac is his daddy now

[puga]

It will be....

You got idiots like Puga who don't mind it though

dumbass, it's you hatin on a more realsitic fight at 140......

[jrosales13]

you're being idealistic, not realistic.

pac hasnt been 135 for a while now and it'll be a hard grind for him to go down to it. excuses will fly when he loses, and you know it.

hell, when cotto dropped down 1 ****in lb less than his last fight and everyone was up in arms that he was drained. tony, a career WW, fought once at JMW, was called drained at 150.

and what does fighting for something above 135 have to do w/ anything? this fight isnt about belts or titles anymore.

It has been 2 years(5 fights), lets not make it seem like has been forever.

Who the fuck cares what people said about the Cotto fight? The same people who shitted on the Cotto fight would shit on Pac win of JMM above 135. The funny thing is that there will be a valid argument for JMM not so much for Cotto. Margarito? Can't even compare to the Cotto situation...

And, again you talking about if Pac losses, excuses will fly... I don't know maybe you're a JMM fan since you're talking as a JMM fan.... acting like he won't get credit...That is fine, I am talking as a Pac fan maybe that will help you know where I am coming from.

Above 135 it means nothing at 135 it has historic importance. I hope you can wrap your mind around that. At 140 means not a damn thing just another easy win for Pac. If Pac wants to fight at 140 then fight Bradley. At 140 Bradley is a better suitable option than JMM would be.

And, I would still favor Pac against JMM at 135 but it would be close.

Stop being such a JMM nuthugger. The man is a small LW would be even a smaller JWW. His limit is at 135.

[jrosales13]

pac has grown out of tht weighclassfor more than 2 years now......meaning he has'nt had that low of a weight for a long time, so him being weighdrained is a big possibilty... .....yeah, pac beating 140 lbers, but not jmm should'nt the measuring stick becuase thats what separtes these two fighters..one can be effective at higher weights and the other cant, its really unfair to pac.....that's puttting pac to a higher standards than jmm...

Pac being weight-drained at 140 is not a possibility is not a possibility when he weighs 143 for a 150 fight when he tried to put on weight.

So if a fighter can't be effective at a higher weight-class than why fight him at a higher weight-class?

Just don't fight him period. Nobody is putting a gun to his head to fight JMM. If he can't make 135 then don't fight him is that simple.

[jrosales13]

dumbass, it's you hatin on a more realsitic fight at 140......

It should not be at 140. Why can't you simpleminded ass can't see that?

It means nothing at 140.

Just do not fight him, if he wants to fight at 140 then fight Bradley...

Just forget of JMM if it has to be above 135...

Try to be a fan of the sport.

[puga]

Pac being weight-drained at 140 is not a possibility is not a possibility when he weighs 143 for a 150 fight when he tried to put on weight.

So if a fighter can't be effective at a higher weight-class than why fight him at a higher weight-class?

Just don't fight him period. Nobody is putting a gun to his head to fight JMM. If he can't make 135 then don't fight him is that simple.

no doubt about that ....lol....but at 135?.....shhhitt!

[jrosales13]

no doubt about that ....lol....but at 135?.....shhhitt!

Then don't fight JMM is that simple.