Who holds the better championship fight at 154?

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  • OptimusWolf
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    #41
    I think it is a travesty that the 154lb belt could be contested at 150lb catchweight.

    Completely devalues the belt, which, as far as I'm concerned, is still vacant.

    So Cotto is the only one of the two with an actual win at 154

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    • al-Xander
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      #42
      Originally posted by pistol whip
      I think hes trying to point out that guys like Martinez and Williams would never be considered cherry pickers if they were fighting guys who consistantly had 15-20 pound weight advantage on them.
      Exactly. Cherry picking to this ts is picking the bigger guy.
      His boy and Martinez calling out midgets is not cherry picking.
      I'm a newbie, yet I watch boxing smarter than this ts.
      Last edited by al-Xander; 12-02-2010, 03:57 PM.

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      • Bushbaby
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        #43
        Originally posted by JoeMan
        Exactly. Cherry picking to this ts is picking the bigger guy.
        His boy and Martinez calling out midgets is not cherry picking.
        I'm a newbie, yet I watch boxing smarter than this ts.
        U ain't smarter than **** truck,the Punisher is & has been a career welterweight!!Who can still make 147,there is no height limits in boxing,there are weight limits,I suggest u stop posting,go educate ur trucking self & return with some semblance of knowledge!!

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        • al-Xander
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          #44
          Originally posted by Di Bushbaby
          U ain't smarter than **** truck,the Punisher is & has been a career welterweight!!Who can still make 147,there is no height limits in boxing,there are weight limits,I suggest u stop posting,go educate ur trucking self & return with some semblance of knowledge!!
          Go back to this forum when you have realized that
          height DOES ****ing matter in any contact sport.
          Why do you think Pac/May vs Wiliams/Martinez are
          not happening? Because they don't bring anything to
          the table? Give me a fkng break! Look, just because
          you've watched a lot of boxing doesn't mean you
          have some kind of authority. You don't. Maybe history.
          Yes. But when it comes to analyzing fights, yours is
          as worse or as good as anybody else's. It's not rocket
          science.

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          • King Of Ring
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            #45
            manny pacquiao

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            • Bushbaby
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              #46
              Originally posted by JoeMan
              Go back to this forum when you have realized that
              height DOES ****ing matter in any contact sport.
              Why do you think Pac/May vs Wiliams/Martinez are
              not happening? Because they don't bring anything to
              the table? Give me a fkng break! Look, just because
              you've watched a lot of boxing doesn't mean you
              have some kind of authority. You don't. Maybe history.
              Yes. But when it comes to analyzing fights, yours is
              as worse or as good as anybody else's. It's not rocket
              science.
              The only reason Floyd or Pacman won't fight Martinez or the Punisher is because they will lose!!Boxing is a business & in that business superstar fighters are protected!!What does analyzing fights have to do with anything??U can't analyze a fight that isn't happening to begin with!!They bring a lot to the table,real competition that would sell,But they are to risky,Pacman is a cherrypicker,just like Floyd,it is what it is!!

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              • MikeRo1972
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                #47
                Originally posted by JonoYoungP4P
                plues fight was at full 154lbs limit
                Yes 154 is the limit but technically Jr Middleweight is anything from 148-154.

                We have become so accustomed to naturally bigger fighters coming down to a fighting weight and only having to lose the minimum to qualify for a division. But I agree that asking Margarito or any other fighter to lose more then they have to qualify for a division is criminal but they do it willingly for the pay day.

                Cotto didn't do anything in the 154 division to technically merit a shot at the title but he was way more accomplished then any other so-called contender at 154. Tons of people were posting that Foreman was too big, too strong, too fast for Cotto. They said that even if he didnt have a lot of KOs at 154 he would hurt a shot smaller Cotto. They said Miguel is already too short for 147 let alone 154. Now haters want to crap on his title? Cotto can't win for losing.

                But to be honest Dzinzurik is the legit 154 champ. Not Manny nor Cotto.
                Last edited by MikeRo1972; 12-02-2010, 07:42 PM.

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                • puga
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                  #48
                  wow...what an unbiased thread........lol
                  Last edited by puga; 12-02-2010, 08:06 PM.

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                  • jrosales13
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Phenom
                    Spinks at least fought elites and at the time had they fought even a shot Spinks would have been the slight Favorite






                    not saying Cotto should have fought Cory instead
                    Cory would not have been the favorite at the time...

                    And, no Cory was not better than Foreman at the time.

                    Yea Cory had fought elite in the likes of Mayorga, Judah, and Taylor...But, that was not the same Spinks as this version of Spinks who lost to k9 FFS's...

                    And, he was better than Foreman? GTFOH...

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