Cotto: "Mayweather has not been a real factor in boxing since 2003"

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #101
    Originally posted by ny123
    Im not a Pac fan but i respect what he has been doing in the ring lately. The funny thing is i favor Mayweather over Pac if that fight gets made so the idea that im saying this out of hate or because im a fan of Manny just isnt true. The original request for drug testing is a ***** move to begin with when Pac has never failed any tests and your only evidence is how impressive he has looked.
    You can believe what you want but that means floyd can too. If he suspects Pac is on PED's and aks him to take tests and is willing to take the same tests how is that a ***** move? If ONLY pac had to take tests you would have a valid argument. Besides, we know a lot of users that "never failed any tests".

    I have no problem with anyone that respects what manny has done in the ring. But lets not go overboard which is what I think some tend to do. At the end of the day Manny's last 5 fights were (using betting lines) a pickem (ODH), and 4 fights where he was at least a 3-1 favorite. Is that any different than floyd?
    Last edited by The Big Dunn; 12-02-2010, 04:22 PM.

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    • Pullcounter
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      #102
      wifebeater is still a factor in boxing, but as the heel/villian/opponent against pac.

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        #103
        Originally posted by letsgobrady
        i'm puerto rican and from n.y. so i am also a fan of cotto and have seen each of his fights and i don't ever remember him sayin that he wanted to fight floyd.you say that for those of you who watch cotto fights remember that cotto said he can't make floyd fight him but when did he say this? after what fight?un like you i'm not blinded by the fact that i'm puerto rican, floyd was asked about miguel on many occasions and yes he more or less dismissed a fight with miguel but at the same time no one is askin miguel about floyd and if he was all he would say is you gotta talk to bob so if you wanted cotto and floyd to fight maybe you should of told bob arum and cotto to step up and actually challenge the best fighter instead of lettin reportrs ask him questions about you while you chill and say nothing
        He did say that he cant make Mayweather fight him and that Foyd is a fighter who avoids challenges. I dont have links but im sure that someone else can verify that. lol at your dumb ass comment about me being blinded by the fact that im PR that has nothing to do with the facts i presented and if you knew me you would know that although i do root for PR boxing i dont let that alter my reality.

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          #104
          Originally posted by Big Dunn
          You can believe what you want but that means floyd can too. If he suspects Pac is on PED's and aks him to take tests and is willing to take the same tests how is that a ***** move? If ONLY pac had to take tests you would have a valid argument. Besides, we know a lot of users that "never failed any tests".

          I have no problem with anyone that respects what manny has done in the ring. But lets not go overboard which is what I think some tend to do. At the end of the day Manny's last 5 fights were (using betting lines) a pickem (ODH), and 4 fights where he was at least a 3-1 favorite. Is that any different than floyd?
          On what basis does he have the right to ask Pac for testing? Because he ha looked too good lately? I may be mistaken but i think Manny has recently agreed to a 7 day cutoff and still Mayweather wouldnt agree.

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            #105
            Originally posted by ny123
            Floyd had already retired or went on vacation when he knew that Cotto was the next fight he had to take. Reminds me of what he is doing now with Pac another "easy fight".
            when was this?when cotto lost to margo?exactly and i could of sworn that floyd was in negotiations with pac in january i didn't know that was a vacation and what bugsa me out about some of you is how you all think that floyd can see the future with dumb as statements like floyd retired because he knew miguel was the next fight for him yet cotto wasn't the one who won it was margo and the whole floyd offered the drug test because floyd knew manny wouldn't except yet when it was first offered manny and roach found it funny and said well take any test he wants

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              #106
              Originally posted by TheSurgeonMDMPH
              says the guy who has gotten pummeled anytime he stepped up! he even got a grade A azz whooping from pathetic clottey. *** cotto! he shyted himself when he was forced to watch pbf destroy gatti. Its his damn fault that the fight didnt happen. Oh...wait, it was the company's fault.

              never liked this guy and never will becuz he is rated too high to be that weak.
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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                #107
                Originally posted by ny123
                He did say that he cant make Mayweather fight him and that Foyd is a fighter who avoids challenges. I dont have links but im sure that someone else can verify that. lol at your dumb ass comment about me being blinded by the fact that im PR that has nothing to do with the facts i presented and if you knew me you would know that although i do root for PR boxing i dont let that alter my reality.
                as much as i have heard floyd avoided cotto there has never been anyone who has ever provided any evidence of it just like you so to me it just sounds like wishfull thinkin but if you can't prove it your just hatin

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by ny123
                  He did say that he cant make Mayweather fight him and that Foyd is a fighter who avoids challenges.
                  What fighters say doesn't matter it's what they do that counts.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by letsgobrady
                    when was this?when cotto lost to margo?exactly and i could of sworn that floyd was in negotiations with pac in january i didn't know that was a vacation and what bugsa me out about some of you is how you all think that floyd can see the future with dumb as statements like floyd retired because he knew miguel was the next fight for him yet cotto wasn't the one who won it was margo and the whole floyd offered the drug test because floyd knew manny wouldn't except yet when it was first offered manny and roach found it funny and said well take any test he wants
                    I dont recall exactly what fight it was after but i can assure you those statements were made. You obviously have no ****ing clue what your talking about because Margs wasnt in the picture when Cotto beat Mosley and Mayweather beat Hatton. Merchant and HBO wanted Cotto Mayweather and Merchant aked Floyd about Cotto (AFTER THE HATTON FIGHT) and he said he would retire from boxing and not allow boxing to retire him. Did that not happen to?
                    Last edited by ny123; 12-02-2010, 04:34 PM.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by ny123
                      On what basis does he have the right to ask Pac for testing? Because he ha looked too good lately? I may be mistaken but i think Manny has recently agreed to a 7 day cutoff and still Mayweather wouldnt agree.
                      Floyd can ask for whatever he wants during negotiations as can manny. I dont know why they asked for tests but niether do you. All I know is both would take them. That is fair.

                      As for 7 day cutoff. Manny was ok with that only after floyd said 0 days or no fight. Manny didn't agree to 14 days when floyd offered a compromise, then agreed to 7 when it was off the table. When don king and valuev tried this with vitali the media pointed out the hypocricy in accepting an offer when its no longer on the table. How is what Manny did different?

                      You can blame floyd but the facts just don't point in that direction.

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