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  • citynation
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    #51
    Marquez lost BOTH fights against Pacman. They were close and competitive. The bottom line, Marquez couldn't stay off of his back, getting knockdown 4 total times. Imagine if they had a three knock down rule in the first fight? Marquez acts as if he want it with pacman, but all he wants is a pay-day. He's getting knocked down in every fight. Mayweather destroyed him at 147.Then they say it's because of the weight. But that's what seperates the good from the great. Pacman is an eight-division world champion, the first boxer in history to win ten world titles in eight different weight divisions. Enough said.

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    • iNDOLiFER
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      #52
      Originally posted by JonoYoungP4P
      Yes knockdowns were very important.
      what im saying is that jmm outboxed pacquiao in both fights
      i disargee, he got the better of manny for a couple rounds and manny got the better of him for a few rounds also. the rest of the rounds were still very competitive, it wasnt like marquez dominated manny throughout the whole fight. knockdowns will win u fight if u cant finish it and leave it up to the judges. what look worse, u hitting me clean for a few rounds or me knocking u down 3 times in a single round? think about it. if marquez was the one that knock manny down 3 times and still got a draw u guys would be saying how is that possible.

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      • iNDOLiFER
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        #53
        Originally posted by citynation
        Marquez lost BOTH fights against Pacman. They were close and competitive. The bottom line, Marquez couldn't stay off of his back, getting knockdown 4 total times. Imagine if they had a three knock down rule in the first fight? Marquez acts as if he want it with pacman, but all he wants is a pay-day. He's getting knocked down in every fight. Mayweather destroyed him at 147.Then they say it's because of the weight. But that's what seperates the good from the great. Pacman is an eight-division world champion, the first boxer in history to win ten world titles in eight different weight divisions. Enough said.
        very ture, at this point in his career i dont think marquez cares to much about winning, he just wanna get paid before he calls it quit.

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          #54
          just like what mosley said in an interview after the pac vs marg fight. mosley said at this point in his career which is coming to an end he wouldnt mind breaking ties with golden boy to get a fight with manny. like i said they wanna get paid, thats it! marquez is using the excuse that he beat manny twice to get into team pacman's head to push them for a 3rd and final fight because marquez wanna eat too!

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          • sidespina
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            #55
            Marquez is done; almost getting knocked out by the likes of a fighter that's not an elite, is not impressive. You're ******ed if you think this fight was supposed to prove that Marquez is still a top Five Fighter. Marquez is so vulnerable to that left hook it's ridiculous,

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              #56
              What Nacho said could be interpreted in many different ways, bottom line is that Marquez got countered, and he is not supposed to be getting caught like that. That was a short left hook, one of the most devastating punches in boxing.

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                #57
                Originally posted by sidespina
                Marquez is done; almost getting knocked out by the likes of a fighter that's not an elite, is not impressive. You're ******ed if you think this fight was supposed to prove that Marquez is still a top Five Fighter. Marquez is so vulnerable to that left hook it's ridiculous,
                true, marquez fought a come forward pressure fighter and he almost got KO. the excuses that pac has been fighting pressure come forward fighters but look at what pac does to them and marquez dont even come close. if pac fought katsidis, pac would of KO him. so pac vs marquez 3 would be a KO in favor of manny.

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                • CharliesRecords
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                  #58
                  Hurt him worse than Pacquiao and Mayweather...

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by citynation
                    Marquez lost BOTH fights against Pacman. They were close and competitive. The bottom line, Marquez couldn't stay off of his back, getting knockdown 4 total times. Imagine if they had a three knock down rule in the first fight? Marquez acts as if he want it with pacman, but all he wants is a pay-day. He's getting knocked down in every fight. Mayweather destroyed him at 147.Then they say it's because of the weight. But that's what seperates the good from the great. Pacman is an eight-division world champion, the first boxer in history to win ten world titles in eight different weight divisions. Enough said.
                    I dont think I've ever seen a fight on hbo that had a three knockdown rule. And I would give pacquiao the recognition of being great if for eight divisions, if he fought good opponents that were not perfectly picked for him at a catch weight. His last good fight was with marquez evey fight since then has been a joke. Dont fall for all the hype on hbo 24/7 they make every fight sound like its going to be on of all time time greatest. Enough said.

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                    • iNDOLiFER
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by bigcursedawg
                      I dont think I've ever seen a fight on hbo that had a three knockdown rule. And I would give pacquiao the recognition of being great if for eight divisions, if he fought good opponents that were not perfectly picked for him at a catch weight. His last good fight was with marquez evey fight since then has been a joke. Dont fall for all the hype on hbo 24/7 they make every fight sound like its going to be on of all time time greatest. Enough said.
                      every fight since then has been a joke, is it because manny dominates them and make it look easy? if a 3rd fight with marquez and manny was to happen and manny dominates marquez, would it be a joke to then? i think your over looking manny's greatness. even if what u said is true that manny has been cherry picking his opponents, well u have to be good too in order to win those fights right. so are u telling me that hatton, oscar, cotto, clottey, and margarito are all weaksauce fighters, would marquez be able to do the same to those guys??

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