Victor Ortiz 'Brandon Rios needs me so he can make money"

[jrosales13]

i think they're both on the same level at the moment


since losing to Prescott, look at the opponents they put Khan in there against?

kotelnik, salita, malinaggi

what do all those guys have in common?


none of them have the power to put Amir to sleep


and since Victor got KO'd, he's been matched up very well to get his confidence back


diaz was him getting something to munch on when he came back

nate was him trying out his legs in case he gets in trouble in the future

and Harris was him showing a glimpse of his confidence coming back and being more aggressive

If we're talking about skill and talent level than OK...

But, if we talking about ranking JWW's you have to look at resume.

1. I do have Bradley, I think his run and resume at 140 is the best.

2. I have Khan him stopping Malignaggi and dominating Kotelnik gets him this spot over Alexander and Ortiz... Really has Ortiz beat anybody as good as Kotelnik?

3. I have Alexander his KO win over Urango was impressive. And, he technically got the win over Kotelnik even though I felt he lost... I can see him being rank #4 or even #5 but any lower... I got him #3 cuz he technically has the W even though I don't think he earned it.

4. I have Kotelnik, yes he got damn shutout against Khan. But, he did beat Ortiz daddy in Maidana. Plus his strong performnace over Alexander should give him some credit.

5. I got Maidana, he lost to Kotelnik but he beat an undefeated Cayo and made Ortiz quit. I don't see how Ortiz should be ranked ahead of him then let alone ahead of Kotelnik.

Again if you talking about skill and talent and potential then OK... I can see that... But, if we talking about rankings like that faggot ass chinaman in bcfc was then no. I don't see how he can be ranked in the top 5.

[bcfc]

damn this punk ass ****** gone make me act a fool up in this thread now....

[-MAKAVELLI-]

If we're talking about skill and talent level than OK...

But, if we talking about ranking JWW's you have to look at resume.

1. I do have Bradley, I think his run and resume at 140 is the best.

2. I have Khan him stopping Malignaggi and dominating Kotelnik gets him this spot over Alexander and Ortiz... Really has Ortiz beat anybody as good as Kotelnik?

3. I have Alexander his KO win over Urango was impressive. And, he technically got the win over Kotelnik even though I felt he lost... I can see him being rank #4 or even #5 but any lower... I got him #3 cuz he technically has the W even though I don't think he earned it.

4. I have Kotelnik, yes he got damn shutout against Khan. But, he did beat Ortiz daddy in Maidana. Plus his strong performnace over Alexander should give him some credit.

5. I got Maidana, he lost to Kotelnik but he beat an undefeated Cayo and made Ortiz quit. I don't see how Ortiz should be ranked ahead of him then let alone ahead of Kotelnik.

Again if you talking about skill and talent and potential then OK... I can see that... But, if we talking about rankings like that faggot ass chinaman in bcfc was then no. I don't see how he can be ranked in the top 5.

yea...i was talkin about talent and potential...agreed with your list


where do you put Maidana if he beats Khan?

would wins over Ortiz and Khan be enough to supplant Timmy?

[jrosales13]

yea...i was talkin about talent and potential...agreed with your list


where do you put Maidana if he beats Khan?

would wins over Ortiz and Khan be enough to supplant Timmy?

At the very least it should move him up to #2 if he beats Khan.

It can be enough to supplant Timmy.. Depending I guess if dominated Khan from the Start.

But, I think it might only last a month if Bradley beats Alexander...

[Southpawology]

If we're talking about skill and talent level than OK...

But, if we talking about ranking JWW's you have to look at resume.

1. I do have Bradley, I think his run and resume at 140 is the best.

2. I have Khan him stopping Malignaggi and dominating Kotelnik gets him this spot over Alexander and Ortiz... Really has Ortiz beat anybody as good as Kotelnik?

3. I have Alexander his KO win over Urango was impressive. And, he technically got the win over Kotelnik even though I felt he lost... I can see him being rank #4 or even #5 but any lower... I got him #3 cuz he technically has the W even though I don't think he earned it.

4. I have Kotelnik, yes he got damn shutout against Khan. But, he did beat Ortiz daddy in Maidana. Plus his strong performnace over Alexander should give him some credit.

5. I got Maidana, he lost to Kotelnik but he beat an undefeated Cayo and made Ortiz quit. I don't see how Ortiz should be ranked ahead of him then let alone ahead of Kotelnik.

Again if you talking about skill and talent and potential then OK... I can see that... But, if we talking about rankings like that faggot ass chinaman in bcfc was then no. I don't see how he can be ranked in the top 5.

I agree with your list...do you put judah over ortiz??

[ATG Fighter]

who has Khan fought at 140 other then Kotelnik that makes his resume that much better then Ortiz?

I am talking about rankings, not ability or potential. Rankings are based on who you beat. The Kotelnik win alone puts Khan ahead. What is Ortiz's best win?

[-MAKAVELLI-]

At the very least it should move him up to #2 if he beats Khan.

It can be enough to supplant Timmy.. Depending I guess if dominated Khan from the Start.

But, I think it might only last a month if Bradley beats Alexander...

that's true...man, i cant wait for those two fights to happen...we'll get better clarity of the 140 pecking order

its kinda like HBO's own little tournament

[-MAKAVELLI-]

I agree with your list...do you put judah over ortiz??

i put Judah slightly above Freddy Hernandez

[jrosales13]

I agree with your list...do you put judah over ortiz??

No

i put Judah slightly above Freddy Hernandez

This ^^^^^^